UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
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UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
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Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#2What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you think about it) What is even crazier is that a whole civilization could be living in our own ocean without detection, especially if said civilization had the technology to get here in the first place. Look it all sounds crazy but nothing is crazier than aliens from another planet actually finding us and traveling the distance. The intelligence and technology to do this is not even comparable using living things born on earth. (The difference between the intelligence of Albert Einstein and an ant is far less than Albert Einstein and some living thing which is able to make it to earth and live here undetected for 60/? years )
Honestly if the UFO thing, which has been an issue since the 40's, turn out to be some counter intelligence mind control military garbage..
My theory: Humans are at an evolutionary point where they can't advance without outside help. For example we think we are smart ("Mars is out next home") yet we cannot even stop ourselves from dumping chemicals into our oceans, knowing it is making it harder for us to reproduce.
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#3https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_phenomenon What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you thin…
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#4https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_phenomenon What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you thin…
If the people in the movie are not lying, are not taken out of context, and are not mistaken.
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#5(A) Honest mistakes
(B) New Govt. Tech
(C) Hoaxes & Lies
(D) Aliens, Etc.
It seems an obvious oversight to me that unexplained physical phenomena are missing, e.g. weather/atmospheric effects that are extremely rare and wait to be discovered.
In terms of likelihood the complementary event is "we have discovered all existing weather/atmospheric effects" which has probability zero.
That's the exciting thing about UFOs - rule out mistakes, hoaxes and aliens and you are left with new tech and new physical phenomena!
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#6https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_phenomenon What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you thin…
To be fair that's also true of Lord of the Rings :)
But being serious, the scientific mindedness of army personnel and politicians is not widely reputed. I find it still far more likely that they are overblowing simple flukes for fear of dismissing a legitimate threat, than I find it that we are occasionally stumbling into high-technology that contradicts our understanding of physics.
The fact that these sightings are almost always happening at high altitudes and in stressful situations makes it even more likely that they are instrument or human blips, or rare weather-related phenomena.
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#7Occam's Razor.
Also, having the technology to fly light years through interstellar space, means that you should surely be able to construct a craft that doesn't crash on Earth (Roswell), or waste your time flying for years to dip into the atmosphere, do a little light show and fly off, or harassing a farmer in the middle of nowhere vs landing in Central Park.
The gimbal video and others have all be plausibly explained.
Everyone on planet Earth now carries the best photographic equipment in human history in their pockets. Where are 20MP pictures of flying saucers? Similarly Bigfoot (Bigfeet?), Yetis, the Loch Ness monster, and so on.
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#8https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_phenomenon What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you thin…
Re: UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low
#9https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_phenomenon What is crazy is that if the people in this movie are not lying, then every person on earth should be trying to solve this mystery. It would take crazy technology and time for anything to travel from another galaxy and be able to handle this environment without slowly studying and incorporating our DNA into theirs over a period of time.(60 years is nothing when you thin…
Eh? That’s a really weird way of looking at intelligence.
By all accounts of you pluck baby from 10,000 BCE and raise it today it wouldn’t be any different than an average person today.
Now one can argue that aliens might be much more physiologically intelligent than humans on a biological level but that’s not necessarily a given or a requirement.
“Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” is true but it doesn’t mean that you can’t understand if it’s explained to you.
An alien civilization that simply has a time lead on humanity might be much more advanced but it doesn’t mean that we won’t be able to understand the physics of how they got here once we learn about it.
An ant is severely limited by biology, for the most part it can not really learn or understand things on an abstract level. Humans on the other hand very much can, if aliens can travel faster than light by exploiting some new physics we just need access to their Wikipedia.
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#10I feel somewhat bad for sharing life stories on a technical forum, but here it goes. As a young boy, 5-ish, I was sleeping with my mother and father in the room, and my grandmother rushes in, all pale, shouting something which directly translates to "Flying body! Flying body!". I distinctly remember having nightmares afterward with flying torsos of humans, because my mind interpreted the "Flying body" statement as literal.
My parents take me with them and the four of us go outside. Sure enough, super close to the top of the buildings is a huge incandescent ... circle. It felt like it had no height, just a 2D circle, just moving somewhat slowly, soundless, above the buildings. Now, this went on for a total of 5 minutes until we lost all visibility, to the other buildings (again, this thing was very very very close to the building tops).
Add two more decades to my life, and I remember this incident. I look online and sure enough, I find an old phpBB forum where people talk about 'the incident'. Apparently, several people tracked it that evening and wrote about it. Unfortunately, I can't find the forum anymore, and going to the library to look for newspaper clippings yielded nothing, so this is always going to be a story that I'll believe, but probably no one else.
My parents still remember the incident, my grandmother is no longer with us. I've thought about what it might have been, trying to come up with a somewhat reasonable explanation, but I have yet to find any.