The End of Indie
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The End of Indie
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#2I'm curious whether the issue is that there isn't an appetite among LPs for lower-risk, lower-yield investment, or that the indie.vc terms didn't enable enough upside or liquidity?
If it's not VC and it's not loans, what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
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#3I'm curious whether the issue is that there isn't an appetite among LPs for lower-risk, lower-yield investment, or that the indie.vc terms didn't enable enough upside or liquidity? If it's not VC and it's not loans, what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
Debt and "factoring" (e.g. Pipe[1]) are becoming good options for SaaS companies that might not "qualify" for VC. I started compiling the lenders / fintechs that focus on SaaS here [0].
Re: The End of Indie
#4I'm curious whether the issue is that there isn't an appetite among LPs for lower-risk, lower-yield investment, or that the indie.vc terms didn't enable enough upside or liquidity? If it's not VC and it's not loans, what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
Debt and "factoring" (e.g. Pipe[1]) are becoming good options for SaaS companies that might not "qualify" for VC. I started compiling the lenders / fintechs that focus on SaaS here [0]. 0 - https://www.trypaper.io 1 - https://www.pipe.com
trypaper.io is nice
What exactly happens if u miss payments on these loans? (Do they write it off, negotiate equity, extend and pretend ?)
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#5I'm curious whether the issue is that there isn't an appetite among LPs for lower-risk, lower-yield investment, or that the indie.vc terms didn't enable enough upside or liquidity? If it's not VC and it's not loans, what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
> what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
Lots of alternatives emerging these days, like https://tinyseed.com/ or https://earnestcapital.com/ (haven't worked with the latter, but worked with the former)
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Debt and "factoring" (e.g. Pipe[1]) are becoming good options for SaaS companies that might not "qualify" for VC. I started compiling the lenders / fintechs that focus on SaaS here [0]. 0 - https://www.trypaper.io 1 - https://www.pipe.com
trypaper.io is nice What exactly happens if u miss payments on these loans? (Do they write it off, negotiate equity, extend and pretend ?)
It depends on the lender. Some of the larger ones take "warrants" to help protect against this. Most lenders (believe it or not) will want to negotiate terms that help you get back on track.
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#7I'm curious whether the issue is that there isn't an appetite among LPs for lower-risk, lower-yield investment, or that the indie.vc terms didn't enable enough upside or liquidity? If it's not VC and it's not loans, what is the answer for funding growth at post-revenue companies that don't fit the hyperscaling model?
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#8This is a shame, we had the opportunity to meet with Bryce. He comes across as someone who has thought deeply about the space and was in it for the right reasons.
I’m struggling to imagine why LPs wouldn’t want Indie.VC investing in profitable companies. I had thought LPs had different buckets they try to invest their portfolio in. It makes sense that Indie.VC wouldn’t fit the mold of the “1% chance at 100x” but you would think they’d be a great fit for the “50% chance for 5x” bucket.
There probably isn’t a single reason, but I’d be interested in learning more about the LP VC dynamic in general if anyone has any insights.
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#9that sucks. I will miss their flaming unicorn. Wishing Bryce the best in his next ventures.