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Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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Re: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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94% drop in symptomatic COVID-19.

So what is the drop in actual (asymptomatic and symptomatic) COVID-19 spread?

And what are the chances for something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease

"The first Marek's disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek's disease was quite low. Decades after the first vaccine was introduced, current strains of Marek Virus cause lymphoma formation on throughout the chicken's body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek's disease vaccine is a leaky vaccine, which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented."

Re: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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Israel feels like the only nation taking the importance and urgency of vaccination seriously.

Here in Europe, articles are coming out complaining that the slow vaccination could be harming the economy which, well, fucking duh. (https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/154626/c...)

Fast rollout. Involve pharmacies. Involve the army. Distribute widely and efficiently. Prepare for months before the vaccine is here. Follow-up campaign to convince vax holdouts. A real War Effort.

There's barely any calls for volunteering here in Belgium. Hospitals and vaccination centers will complain to the government that they are understaffed but you seldom hear them urgently asking for new volunteers to assign to COVID teams and vaccination centers. We spent a ton of time debating whether the social bubble should be 2 or 3 large, whether kids should be 12 or 14 before they count for it, etc etc and those spending that time were the same people who didn't prepare for the eventuality of a vaccine, and started doing so in late December.

Sorry this has veered off topic. The number of articles that can be summed up to "Vaccines work, are good, and israel is doing it right" frustrate little european me. :(

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Someone's comment raising fear about unmitigated transmission risk got flagged to death, so here's the comment I originally wrote in response to it:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.06.21251283v...

The most recent un-reviewed publication looking into viral load, which is likely associated with the risk of transmission.

Lay reading: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/09/pfizerbionte...

Re: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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That is some well needed news! Just hope that Europe will speed up its vaccine distribution now.

It will not happen in Europe soon. The vaccine will be sold by manufacturers to highest bidder, that’s no surprise. And with the European ordering disaster as an adult I’ll get vaccinated best case in 2022.

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Israel feels like the only nation taking the importance and urgency of vaccination seriously. Here in Europe, articles are coming out complaining that the slow vaccination could be harming the economy which, well, fucking duh. ( https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/154626/c... ) Fast rollout. Involve pharmacies. Involve the army. Distribute widely and efficiently. Prepare for months before the vaccine…

You perfectly expressed my feelings. Greetings from Germany!

Re: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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Israel feels like the only nation taking the importance and urgency of vaccination seriously. Here in Europe, articles are coming out complaining that the slow vaccination could be harming the economy which, well, fucking duh. ( https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/154626/c... ) Fast rollout. Involve pharmacies. Involve the army. Distribute widely and efficiently. Prepare for months before the vaccine…

I think we all in Europe are in a similar situation (based in comments of friends of different countries), so it seems to me that is not because the internal organization of delivering / injecting the vaccine but the production of it.

The production is going very slow, and therefore the rollout it's super slow...

Re: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic Covid-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine

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The Google COVID-19 statistics for Israel show that cases and deaths are declining, but not at a faster rate than elsewhere in the world. Reported deaths lag behind sometimes for weeks and new deaths were caused by infections weeks ago, so vaccination may not have much effect on deaths, yet. But the number of positive tests should have gone down considerably with 50% of the population vaccinated. Are all these aymptomatic cases or do the is this due to part of the population not keeping any rules? Does anybody have information why the numbers are sill that high?
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