Struggling with the Gender Gap
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Struggling with the Gender Gap
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Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#2My impression is that these and other blogs have been tremendously successful in letting young female scientists learn about extremely successful female role models in academia. They've also been extremely illuminating personally to me (a male engineer) because they call out instances where folks are "innocuously" sexist, and helped me understand how even certain cases of well-intentioned male behavior is actually discouraging from a female PoV.
All I can say to the OP is:
(1) she should keep writing so that young women entering CS know that successful female s/w engineers exist.
(2) encourage other successful female s/w engineers to start blogging.
(3) don't ever hesitate to blog about instances of sexism - well-intentioned or otherwise - because at the very least this can help clueless male engineers learn how to behave.
(4) Don't ever hesitate to confront people for sexist speech or actions. The problem is only going to away if we create a culture where sexism would be career suicide and the first step to this is confronting the sexists.
Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#3Jean -- if you don't want to be known as the person who only talks about gender issues, at the very least, try to intersperse some technical discussions into your gender articles. Or, better yet, write articles about tech instead of the fact that you're female.
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#4Her opening statement closely resembles what I felt seeing another jeanhsu article about gender. I also thought it was woefully ironic when she mentioned that she has tried to avoid the topic of gender, when in actuality, that's the only correlation I have to her at this point. Jean -- if you don't want to be known as the person who only talks about gender issues, at the very least, try to intersperse some technical…
Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#5Her opening statement closely resembles what I felt seeing another jeanhsu article about gender. I also thought it was woefully ironic when she mentioned that she has tried to avoid the topic of gender, when in actuality, that's the only correlation I have to her at this point. Jean -- if you don't want to be known as the person who only talks about gender issues, at the very least, try to intersperse some technical…
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#6All I see is "Look how cool and special I am! I'm a girl and I can navigate in the men's world!". She tries to bring up a problem but I cannot quiet see a real problem there.
"Already at a disadvantage, they are playing a seemingly impossible game of catchup with very little positive feedback or support. The culture, the standards, and the norms are all male-centric, and the book talks about women in computing being guests in a male-hosted world."
It's a big problem if you want to become an average programmer that has to rely on that feedback and support. Guess what? Most truly skilled people learned almost everything by themselves. Generally speaking most intelligent people learn by themselves (if there are means to do it) and find themselves a little alienated from the general culture.
My point is simply if you want to achieve exceptional results you will most likely be an exceptional person too. And being a woman, being ugly being whatever will not have much influence. In some situations it will help, in some it might do the opposite, it's random.
If you want to be average then yea, as a woman it will be harder in IT, but if you want to be average why not pick a job average woman does?
Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#7Her opening statement closely resembles what I felt seeing another jeanhsu article about gender. I also thought it was woefully ironic when she mentioned that she has tried to avoid the topic of gender, when in actuality, that's the only correlation I have to her at this point. Jean -- if you don't want to be known as the person who only talks about gender issues, at the very least, try to intersperse some technical…
As an aside, it's not like men are actively encouraged to become programmers by their social peers. There are a small group of men who program and support each other in that vein, in the general population it doesn't exactly represent the hopes and dreams of parents of male children. (Eg. Mom and Dad statistically would encourage becoming a lawyer or doctor much more than a programmer).
I think as a society we should encourage women and men to do what they want rather than that they should fill some predefined gap that we think needs filling. I could care less about the gender gap in computing or the gender gap in nursing.
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#8If she [the author] cares so much about the social aspects of being in IT industry then I don't know why she cannot accept the way it is. All I see is "Look how cool and special I am! I'm a girl and I can navigate in the men's world!". She tries to bring up a problem but I cannot quiet see a real problem there. "Already at a disadvantage, they are playing a seemingly impossible game of catchup with very little positi…
Another way is to reject that environment and build your own, and I suspect that explains a certain number of startups which have been surfacing of late. The alternative is continuing to power the hate engines of the Valley, and that's just not going to work.
Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#9If she [the author] cares so much about the social aspects of being in IT industry then I don't know why she cannot accept the way it is. All I see is "Look how cool and special I am! I'm a girl and I can navigate in the men's world!". She tries to bring up a problem but I cannot quiet see a real problem there. "Already at a disadvantage, they are playing a seemingly impossible game of catchup with very little positi…
If she [the author] cares so much about the social aspects of being in IT industry then I don't know why she cannot accept the way it is.
Why should she have to accept it the way it is?
As human beings we all have the basic right and duty to improve things for the better. If the situation is not the way it should be and I believe the comments agree to that premise then WHY should she try NOT IMPROVE them?
If the same topic were addressed by a male programmer we would all be talking how chivalry and good people are in abundance who want things to change, would not we?
Thank you for the downvote that you shall soon exercise but someone had to say this loud even if it shows mildly irrational side of me.
Re: Struggling with the Gender Gap
#10If she [the author] cares so much about the social aspects of being in IT industry then I don't know why she cannot accept the way it is. All I see is "Look how cool and special I am! I'm a girl and I can navigate in the men's world!". She tries to bring up a problem but I cannot quiet see a real problem there. "Already at a disadvantage, they are playing a seemingly impossible game of catchup with very little positi…