AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
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Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#2Semi truck driver. I work for one of the largest nation wide trucking companies in America.
We have these in all our trucks, but only one forward facing camera. The driver is not visible.
I have been flagged a few times for following too close, after a car cuts in front and I didn't slow down and back off soon enough.
In our case, the truck radar detects the following distance, and you get an audible alarm. If you back off soon enough, no harm no foul.
There are other sensors in the truck that detect hard braking, hard turns, speeding, etc.
If your truck rats you out, your boss reviews the telemetry and the video, then has a coaching call with you.
We are told that the camera only records fifteen seconds before and after an incident.
In my case, I appreciated the recording and coaching, because I then had to think about how to prevent further incidents. My solution was to slow down a couple mph in crowded situations, which works because people who cut in front of you are a little more likely to be automatically pulling away.
Not weighing in on the appropriateness of Amazon's solution. But the yawning thing would drive me nuts. We all have yawning bouts.
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#3The vehicles with the cameras come to your doorstep.
Here's a little tongue-in-cheek thought experiment:
If I place a big sign at the end of my driveway saying "By entering this property you agree to the following terms and conditions..." which then goes on to ban videocameras and lay out fixed penalties as liquidated damages, can I sue Amazon for breach of contract?
How would this be any different from the ToS buried on their own website? (hey, at least mine's posted in big letters where you're sure to see it!)
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Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#5The vehicles with the cameras come to your doorstep. Here's a little tongue-in-cheek thought experiment: If I place a big sign at the end of my driveway saying "By entering this property you agree to the following terms and conditions..." which then goes on to ban videocameras and lay out fixed penalties as liquidated damages, can I sue Amazon for breach of contract? How would this be any different from the ToS burie…
Depends on your country's laws. If I go in a bus with a sign saying "everyone entering this bus owes me $500" it doesn't make it the law
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#6The vehicles with the cameras come to your doorstep. Here's a little tongue-in-cheek thought experiment: If I place a big sign at the end of my driveway saying "By entering this property you agree to the following terms and conditions..." which then goes on to ban videocameras and lay out fixed penalties as liquidated damages, can I sue Amazon for breach of contract? How would this be any different from the ToS burie…
Do it, please, post your sign and we can all print one out.
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#7The vehicles with the cameras come to your doorstep. Here's a little tongue-in-cheek thought experiment: If I place a big sign at the end of my driveway saying "By entering this property you agree to the following terms and conditions..." which then goes on to ban videocameras and lay out fixed penalties as liquidated damages, can I sue Amazon for breach of contract? How would this be any different from the ToS burie…
Depends on your country's laws. If I go in a bus with a sign saying "everyone entering this bus owes me $500" it doesn't make it the law
Walking onto a public bus is very different from setting terms on private property
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#8Semi truck driver. I work for one of the largest nation wide trucking companies in America. We have these in all our trucks, but only one forward facing camera. The driver is not visible. I have been flagged a few times for following too close, after a car cuts in front and I didn't slow down and back off soon enough. In our case, the truck radar detects the following distance, and you get an audible alarm. If you ba…
Some drivers own their trucks and contract out their delivery services, right? Do you know if cameras are often required as a term of service for independent drivers?
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#9The vehicles with the cameras come to your doorstep. Here's a little tongue-in-cheek thought experiment: If I place a big sign at the end of my driveway saying "By entering this property you agree to the following terms and conditions..." which then goes on to ban videocameras and lay out fixed penalties as liquidated damages, can I sue Amazon for breach of contract? How would this be any different from the ToS burie…
IANAL, but I think by making the purchase on Amazon, you are consenting to the delivery methods in order to fulfill the contract you entered with Amazon to purchase and deliver the product.
Re: AI cameras in Amazon delivery vans causing privacy issues among drivers
#10Semi truck driver. I work for one of the largest nation wide trucking companies in America. We have these in all our trucks, but only one forward facing camera. The driver is not visible. I have been flagged a few times for following too close, after a car cuts in front and I didn't slow down and back off soon enough. In our case, the truck radar detects the following distance, and you get an audible alarm. If you ba…
Some drivers own their trucks and contract out their delivery services, right? Do you know if cameras are often required as a term of service for independent drivers?
There are a gazillion ways to make a living (or not), driving a truck.
Yep, some drivers are independent and own one or more trucks. Some "independent" drivers are more closely associated with a large employer, leasing their truck from that company. Some of those lease more than one truck.
The answers to your question would be: Yes. Probably. Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not. No.