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Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

10 years ago no one was running in cloud. Internet still works outside of big tech data centers.

Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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It also shows the resiliency of the internet. Parler's ability to build their own failsafe network rests on them. I learned a lot of hard lessons with my first failed startup. One of them was not to rely on another platform for my success. If TPB can do it being enemies of nation states. I think Parler will be just fine.

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

There are thousands of colo centers out there that will take your business. Sure you have to buy the hardware up front but in the long run it'll be less expensive. The scary part would be fiber/backbone providers denying you a connection.

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

epik, apparently.

at some point too when you notice that everyone thinks you are horrible maybe the problem is you.

Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

Oracle, IBM, Alibaba.

On the smaller but still “millions of virtual machines” end of the scale: DigitalOcean, Vultr, Linode. Still have APIs and can give you instances in minutes.

Hetzner and OVH also an option for the scale of infrastructure that Parler appears to require, although their “Dedicated Server” offerings (Bare Metal) often take 24-72 hours to deliver to customers.

Or one of a thousand places to rent a rack and “DIY” with hardware from a vendor like Dell, HP, Supermicro, Lenovo, ZT, ...

Plenty of examples exist of sites which have spent years or even decades online despite being unpopular or illegal, e.g. The Pirate Bay.

Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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If I were running something likely to be deplatformed, I would never consider anything but a multi-cloud solution where no single provider is a single point of failure. It's not that hard to do.

If you were refused by Amazon, Microsoft, Google and Cloudflare, what alternatives are there?

Someone should ask Peter Sunde. https://www.vice.com/en/article/3an7pn/pirate-bay-founder-th...

Re: Parler’s de-platforming shows the exceptional power of cloud providers

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The thing is, you're always going to dependent on someone in the mainstream economic world if you want to have a web presence in North America. Even if you run your own servers, you're at the mercy of your hosting provider, your ISP, your DNS registrar, and even browser level things like Google Safe Browsing. Any of these can be major points of failure.

So yeah, not using AWS would avoid being dependent on AWS, but you're going to depend on someone. In this sense, inclusion on the internet ultimately has a political dimension. I think that's just how it is — we live in a society with politics.

(I'm omitting commentary on Parler in particular because I have no sympathy for them in this or any other case.)

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