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Re: Decentralised content moderation

#2
I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation.

Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#3

I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation. Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

Isn't it just an example of democratic content moderation? We up vote, down vote and flag content. We don't get the ability to do so unless we are a community member of some tenure. It's augmented by centralized moderation by a handful of moderators.

How well it works is always a topic here.

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#4

I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation. Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

FTA: "even though such filtering saves you from having to see things you don’t like, it doesn’t stop the objectionable content from existing". He doesn't want upvoting/downvoting, he wants complete eradication (of whatever the majority happens to objects to right now).

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#5

I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation. Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

Isn't it just an example of democratic content moderation? We up vote, down vote and flag content. We don't get the ability to do so unless we are a community member of some tenure. It's augmented by centralized moderation by a handful of moderators. How well it works is always a topic here.

We don't see all of the countless hours spent by mods like dang to keep the quality high. It's a thankless job most of the time!

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#6

I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation. Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

He mentions Reddit at the end of the article, which is close enough in mechanism to Hackernews.

Re: Decentralised content moderation

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it just an example of democratic content moderation? We up vote, down vote and flag content. We don't get the ability to do so unless we are a community member of some tenure. It's augmented by centralized moderation by a handful of moderators. How well it works is always a topic here.

We don't see all of the countless hours spent by mods like dang to keep the quality high. It's a thankless job most of the time!

Having moderated some large forums in the past I know!

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#8
There is absolutely no difficulty, if you don't want censorship, just have a button that hides content you personally don't want and leave that decision to all individual users. What others wish to see or not is not your decision to make, and if some of them are illegal that should be a job for the police not some ego-triping janny.

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#9
I've been thinking hard about decentralized content moderation, especially around chatrooms, for years. More specifically because I'm building a large, chatroom-like service for TV.

I think it's evident from Facebook, Twitter, et al that human moderation of very dynamic situations is incredibly hard, maybe even impossible.

I've been brewing up strategies of letting the community itself moderate because a machine really cannot "see" what content is good or bad, re: context.

While I think that community moderation will inevitably lead to bubbles, it's a better and more organic tradeoff than letting a centralized service dictate what is and isn't "good".

Re: Decentralised content moderation

#10

I find it pretty interesting that Martin does not mention the kind of community member-driven up/downvote mechanism found on this site (and elsewhere) as an example of decentralised content moderation. Edit: now I see Slashdot and Reddit mentioned at the end in the updates section (I don't remember seeing them on my first read, but that might just be me).

How would up/down votes work on a decentralized platform? Wouldn't it be easy to game by standing up your own server and wishing up a legion of sockpuppets?

There's a whole Moonshot of spam resistance that's going to need to happen in Mastodon/Matrix/Whatever.

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