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EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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You really have to walk a censorship tight rope as a social media. You need to remove content that targets minorities and hate speech or face consequence, but only when it applies to the bottom 99% of society - apparently.

The fact that the EU seems to want control over who gets to express themselves freely, is even more troubling than the inconsistent rules applies by the media themselves.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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You really have to walk a censorship tight rope as a social media. You need to remove content that targets minorities and hate speech or face consequence, but only when it applies to the bottom 99% of society - apparently. The fact that the EU seems to want control over who gets to express themselves freely, is even more troubling than the inconsistent rules applies by the media themselves.

Exactly this. The problem lies in the power to control expression lying in too few hands. Just having the same media system, but with the government directing who they ban is just passing the buck.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left.

If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it.

The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not.

That's why in the long run the right will beat the left because it is utterly shameless in taken any action it can to assert power, whilst the left is reluctant to take any strong action.

The left scores a knockdown on the right via social media restriction, but soon enough, the left will offer a hand to help the right back up so they can win the fight.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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You really have to walk a censorship tight rope as a social media. You need to remove content that targets minorities and hate speech or face consequence, but only when it applies to the bottom 99% of society - apparently. The fact that the EU seems to want control over who gets to express themselves freely, is even more troubling than the inconsistent rules applies by the media themselves.

Suddenly it is very easy for the powers that be to see the threat these platforms pose. Deplatform little people? Fine with us. Deplatform a head of state? Can't have that!

Facebook, Twitter, et al are going to regret the pandora's box of unintended consequences they just opened up with this move.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left. If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it. The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not. That's why in the long run the right will…

The sad thing is that this is exactly how the right sees the actions of the left. and it's even worse, as they (the left) are now winning. Their eyes are not blinking - they don't care about freedom of speech or fair game.

In the long run, both sides start to see this modus operandi as completely normal. Censorship and vengeance to the other side are completely acceptable.

As a libertarian, I am utterly horrified.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left. If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it. The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not. That's why in the long run the right will…

Spoken like someone that only sees right and left. In fact many people on the "right" were tired of seeing FB and Twitter control so much and they were constantly told it's a private platform so go make your own. They did so, and then those same companies worked in tandem to destroy Parler. Signal and WhatsApp are used to coordinate violent and destructive riots...we don't see anyone trying to take them down. The opinion is they do more good than bad...despite the ability to use them for either purpose.

There are people on the left and right that are power hungry and make decisions only to benefit themselves...however some people actually care about freedoms and fairness. Bad and illegal behavior will happen in any system with freedoms...banning those systems is not the answer.

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left. If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it. The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not. That's why in the long run the right will…

What makes you think that these platforms are actually taking action for "the left?" Is silicon valley actually a leftist paradise full of leftist megacorperations?

Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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post #7

I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left. If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it. The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not. That's why in the long run the right will…

Spoken like someone that only sees right and left. In fact many people on the "right" were tired of seeing FB and Twitter control so much and they were constantly told it's a private platform so go make your own. They did so, and then those same companies worked in tandem to destroy Parler. Signal and WhatsApp are used to coordinate violent and destructive riots...we don't see anyone trying to take them down. The opi…

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Re: EU Commission: ‘No longer acceptable’ for platforms to take key decisions alone

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post #6

I'm left wing but I despair for the future of the left. If the right had control of the tech companies it would have removed left content years ago and never blinked or even thought twice about it. The right never agonises over its own strong decisions, whereas the left, if it takes strong action , wrings its hands in agony about whether it has done the correct thing or not. That's why in the long run the right will…

The sad thing is that this is exactly how the right sees the actions of the left. and it's even worse, as they (the left) are now winning. Their eyes are not blinking - they don't care about freedom of speech or fair game. In the long run, both sides start to see this modus operandi as completely normal. Censorship and vengeance to the other side are completely acceptable. As a libertarian, I am utterly horrified.

This. We don't have civil discourse anymore...people just yell and call people names. You don't like what the other person says they are a "libtard"...or a "racist". You don't like what they are doing online, get them kicked off or dox them to your friends. Justify online bullying like it's a sport. Now it's escalated to not just banning them from social media...but a coordinated effort to destroy the alternative platform they had.
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