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Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades.

Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe?

Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual source of President Trump calling for violence on Twitter. Don't believe everything you read.

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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post #2

The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

"when the looting starts the shooting starts"

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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post #2

The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

"but.. but... inciting violence" is a very strange insult.

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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post #2

The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

One point I hope all take away from this startling turn of events is just how thin our veneer of civilization really is.

There are truly dangerous voices afoot these days, but I don't think Trump among them.

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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But don't Germany and France both have actual laws against offensive speech on the internet that allows the government itself to compel social media websites to delete people's content?

Their feigned concern over Twitter excercising its 1st Amendment rights seems a bit hypocritical here.

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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post #2

The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

I think a private business should be able to chose their customers and decline business for any reason

A much bigger issue is the fact that public opinion and discourse happens exclusively on private platforms who each have their own interests

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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I'm looking past Trump. The tech cartel can not only decide which party wins elections, they can decide which candidates within the winning party keep their seats. And they are getting more and more desperate to shape politics as they run from anti-trust. For me its too much power.

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

> try to find an actual source of President Trump calling for violence on Twitter. Don't believe everything you read.

On 9:53 PM, 28 May 2020 he said:

> ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!

That phase isn't random and specific connotation[1].

[0] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/twitter-...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_s...

Re: Trump’s Twitter Exile Spurs Opposition from Germany, France

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post #2

The fact that Europeans are standing up for free speech while the United States is not speaks volumes to how things have changed in the US over the last few decades. Have our politics really gone so far down the "Win at all costs! Censor all other opinions!" rabbit hole that speech here is now less free than Europe? Before you parrot the "but.. but... inciting violence" talking point in reply, try to find an actual s…

The first amendment never anticipated the public square to be privately owned. Unfortunately I feel things will have to get much worse before people start listening to the adults in the room again, and enact sensible reforms.
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