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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone.

We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will also escalate to low-level platforms (will hosting companies, registrars, or even ISPs start taking similar actions on a regular basis?).

At this point it appears to be in a bit of a feedback loop as well, since it's obvious that deplatforming groups will make them feel persecuted and even more upset, which then makes them more likely to be deplatformed by whichever platform they move to next.

Could this escalate even past low-level companies and result in decentralized, uncensorable, and end-to-end encrypted technologies having action taken against them (as more users, including some that are radicalized, seek them out)? I certainly hope not, but I have no faith in our government's various administrations here to begin with, especially given that we are likely only at the beginning of these types of conflicts.

(Obligatory note that I am not defending any given platform, group of people, or anything of that matter, as I find it much more interesting to talk about how systems like this may play out instead)

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading.

People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…

It seems to be that these platforms were quite outrageously accepting any content at all being published on their platforms, including direct personal threats and incitements to violence.

If these groups want to not be deplatformed every few years, they ought to moderate the content. That seems to be all Apple is asking for here - just moderate out the illegal content and you can come back.

That only seems hard to do for conservative groups - everyone else seems to at least try to moderate, even if they do it unevenly or not quickly enough, they try. These deplatformed companies and actors don't ever seem to even try to moderate.

I don't feel bad for them, personally.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours. So this was in effect a rigged deadline, somewhat analogous to a "Performance Improvement Plan".

Apple has been trying to get them to implement moderation for months, they just gave them the 24 hours as an ultimatum after not getting anywhere with them and the real world situation escalating.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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The only way they would've made this deadline would've been to delete all of their posts.

I'm not upset in the slightest about them being gone, but I can kind of see the argument about how the app store is deciding how someone uses their phones here.

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