The Dunning-Kruger Effect Is Probably Not Real
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#2At the very least, I wish people would look at those graphs, and realize that the popular “mount stupid” formulation is basically fan fiction.
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#3As I say, "Citations of Dunning-Kruger are usually examples of it."
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#4As I say, "Citations of Dunning-Kruger are usually examples of it."
Gave me a good chuckle
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#5The Dunning Kruger might be a mirage but this article doesn’t seem to show that.
It shows 2 charts, one that was used by Dunning Kruger and the other generated by random noise.
Both look similar, but in the random noise chart the 2 lines intersect midway along the x-axis, where the 2nd and 3quartiles meet, while the dinning Kruger chart has the line intersecting where the 3rd and 4th quartiles meet.
Isn’t that a significant difference between the 2 results?
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#6In my experience Dunning-Kruger 100% is there but in the following form: "knowledgeable people doubt, and less people know they are more confident." It is even amazing sometimes, how confidently people without any knowledge talk and give opinion about subjects that need high level of knowledge, just to even begin to ponder about it. And again, it can be my bias.
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#7I can't go a week without seeing people mention Dunning-Kruger on Reddit. It's become such a pop-cultural zeitgeist term that it's lost any ties to the original study. It's frequently abused as a derogatory adjective to describe people while claiming the superior argument, often without providing evidence.
I don't know what to do about it, but its use by lay people bothers me. It's ironically Dunning-Kruger.
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#8Personally speaking, it just struck me as odd that - outside of some rare exceptions - that someone could be so dumb that he'd actually be ignorant of his ineptitude. This is different than misrepresenting your ability. Lots of people do that for lots of reasons, but for someone to be so sheerly ignorant as is often given in the case examples struck me as someone who will sooner rather than later learn painful lessons about the truth of his own shortcomings.
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#9Personally speaking, it just struck me as odd that - outside of some rare exceptions - that someone could be so dumb that he'd actually be ignorant of his ineptitude. This is different than misrepresenting your ability. Lots of people do that for lots of reasons, but for someone to be so sheerly ignorant as is often given in the case examples struck me as someone who will sooner rather than later learn painful lesson…
The people I know who fall into this category construct an elaborate world view where they are the constant victim of all the idiots and jerks of the world. Everything that goes wrong is someone else’s fault, not their own ignorance and bad choices.
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#10I'm sure the Dunning-Kruger effect is real, and I'm much better than average at being able to tell!