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Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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> “They are not self-driving systems,” said Supt. Gary Graham of Alberta RCMP Traffic Services.

> “These technologies assist drivers, but do not replace them,” said the statement from the federal institution responsible for transportation policies and programs ...

> Tesla’s website states, “All new Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features today, and full self-driving capabilities in the future.”

... full self-driving capabilities in the FUTURE ...

So it is a DISHONEST marketing issue that creates a wrong perception in the consumer, and that's what the government should address.

Create regulation that do not allow such vehicles to be marketed as "self-driving". Create some kind of certification to earn the right to advertise a vehicle as "self-driving". And define and standardize better labels for the current technologies used, and publicize it well.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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Curious: Why would the Tesla be speeding, since it was in “autopilot” mode? Wouldn’t it know about the speed limits? Or dis the driver set on cruise control first?

You can happily set the autopilot speed to above the speed limit. There are a few gotchas and it won’t always let you, but in general, it is fine. I normally set it to 10% higher than the posted speed limit as an example.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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> “They are not self-driving systems,” said Supt. Gary Graham of Alberta RCMP Traffic Services. > “These technologies assist drivers, but do not replace them,” said the statement from the federal institution responsible for transportation policies and programs ... > Tesla’s website states, “All new Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features today, and full self-driving cap…

You think it's regulation issue. I say it's because it's overtrust for an almost working system.

If something gets good enough you will rely on it more and more. It will work, until it doesn't.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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"Witnesses claim the man behind the wheel and his passenger were asleep with their seats fully reclined, as their Tesla travelled up to 150 km/h on the freeway near Ponoka..."

Given this and the man's other past incidents, the Tesla was only a minor contributing factor in the guy's global stupidity and danger that he inflicts on the world daily?

Edit: Btw, what would be the end accident scenario here? Presuming that the car wouldn't hit any other car on the road, would it lose control on a curve that was too tight for the speed, or fail at the end of the freeway or something? Would it alarm and then come to a gradual stop? Not a Tesla owner here.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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I’m a huge fan of Elon Musk so take this with a grain of salt, but the company has totally misled and overhyped the self driving feature. It’s almost like a wink and a nod, giving people a false perception, and that’s wrong.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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> “They are not self-driving systems,” said Supt. Gary Graham of Alberta RCMP Traffic Services. > “These technologies assist drivers, but do not replace them,” said the statement from the federal institution responsible for transportation policies and programs ... > Tesla’s website states, “All new Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features today, and full self-driving cap…

> So it is a dishonest marketing issue that creates a wrong perception in the consumer

German courts share this opinion and Tesla is prohibited from naming their product Autopilot or referencing any FSD.

Re: Man accused of dangerous driving for sleeping in self-driving, speeding Tesla

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Curious: Why would the Tesla be speeding, since it was in “autopilot” mode? Wouldn’t it know about the speed limits? Or dis the driver set on cruise control first?

Teslas still cannot reliably read signs. It's working in good weather conditions but dirty signs or rainy conditions are still a problem for Tesla's allegedly just around the corner full self driving ability.
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