Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
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Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
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Re: Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
#2*"PRIVACY" IS LIKE "the environment" – it's about too many things to be useful, so everybody ends up trampling it for a host of petty reasons. Leading to a world that's degraded and hostile, and that would never have been chosen had the consequences been made clear.
Re: Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
#3Also, everyone has something to hide.
Re: Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
#4Whenever somebody argues having nothing to hide I ask:
1) Where were you last night?
2) How much money is in your bank account? Do you have any debt?
3) What is your Debit Card PIN/account password/...
4) What is your address? Your families address?
5) Can I see your key?
And so on. Everybody needs to proctect themselves and potentially others attached to them. There is a good reason for these questions being awkward and inappropriate.
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#5Whenever somebody argues having nothing to hide I ask: 1) Where were you last night? 2) How much money is in your bank account? Do you have any debt? 3) What is your Debit Card PIN/account password/... 4) What is your address? Your families address? 5) Can I see your key? And so on. Everybody needs to proctect themselves and potentially others attached to them. There is a good reason for these questions being awkward…
you hit the nail on the head.
Re: Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
#6We want a society that respects free will and freedom from coercion. Privacy is necessary to achieve that end. Let's focus on achieving that end.
Security experts spent 2 decades arguing for privacy. Very little has changed. For most people, privacy is not an end in itself.
Re: Privacy matters even if “you have nothing to hide”
#7Also, everyone has something to hide.
Or, perhaps: "YOU don’t get to decide that you have nothing to hide when you give up your privacy."
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#9I really like Social Cooling's take on privacy (http://www.socialcooling.com/).
SC's take (paraphrasingly, of course) is that without privacy, you're only rewarded for astroturfing your life & feigning a blandly successful life without pot holes.
The Social Dilemma (Netflix docudrama)'s take on it -- that facebook-et-al don't sell "your data" they sell "a guaranteed change in your behavior" -- is also a pretty damn powerful message.
This website's "nobody cares but they shouuuuuld!" baseline argument is not very effective, IMHO. These guys have the right idea -- giving access to privacy tooling -- but this post should've been more focused on education from the get-go. e.g. "We know you feel powerless about privacy. That's why we built [x resource]. Claw control back."
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#10I've started to ask "What about others? Don't they have the right to privacy?".
For example if you're gay you might not want everyone to find out. Or if you're into some weird kinky stuff. Or even better if you live with a hidden identity because you've witnessed against organized crime.
It's fine to give away your personal privacy, but it's harder to throw other people under the buss (if you're capable of empathy as most of us are).