A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by notadeveloper » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 3:58 PM UTC

A Brief Goodbye to CentOS
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Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by chmod775 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:15 PM UTC

Call me old fashioned, but I ship both my private projects and those at work as debian packages.

Debian packages are trivial to put into a container, and we tried that, but honestly it's not half as nice to work with.

With containers you have to do a ton of extra steps to get functionality and debugging on a level a default debian system provides you.

Additionally the tools to automate the installation and configuration of debian systems are way more mature compared to docker et al.

Containers aren't quite there yet.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by vondur » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:15 PM UTC

As others have noted, something like this was expected once IBM purchased RedHat. Looking forward, I’m excited for the future of Rocky Linux.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by q3k » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:16 PM UTC

chmod775 wrote: post #2

Call me old fashioned, but I ship both my private projects and those at work as debian packages. Debian packages are trivial to put into a container, and we tried that, but honestly it's not half as nice to work with. With containers you have to do a ton of extra steps to get functionality and debugging on a level a default debian system provides you. Additionally the tools to automate the installation and configurat…

How do you handle multiple versions of the same project/software/deployment on the same machine?

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:16 PM UTC

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Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by _red » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:18 PM UTC

vondur wrote: post #3

As others have noted, something like this was expected once IBM purchased RedHat. Looking forward, I’m excited for the future of Rocky Linux.

Rumor is RH was planning this from before merger. Supposedly they wanted to do it before C8 release.

It was handled in a very hamfisted way. Permitting entities to rebase from C7 -> C8 and then pulling the plug has caused tremendous ill will.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by ThinkBeat » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:24 PM UTC

If you are operating a billion-dollar computer paying IBM/Redhat is probably a good idea.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by ComputerGuru » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

q3k wrote: post #4

chmod775 wrote: post #2

Call me old fashioned, but I ship both my private projects and those at work as debian packages. Debian packages are trivial to put into a container, and we tried that, but honestly it's not half as nice to work with. With containers you have to do a ton of extra steps to get functionality and debugging on a level a default debian system provides you. Additionally the tools to automate the installation and configurat…

How do you handle multiple versions of the same project/software/deployment on the same machine?

Isn't that a sign of technical debt? Not OP, but for development/testing: in a VM.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by Lendal » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

I'm still relatively new to Linux. My question is why wouldn't Fedora Server be considered an alternative for the CentOS diaspora? It seems a better fit than Debian to me.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by _jal » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:30 PM UTC

RedHat's goodwill will be spent down over the next decade or so, and eventually I fully expect to think of them the same way I do IBM. (Which is, roughly, the same way I think of Oracle.)

All of the people I deal with there are the same as before the acquisition, so things have not changed much for me personally, yet. But I am looking at building replacements for certain tools we depend on; the writing is on the wall.