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Gitter now speaks Matrix

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Re: Gitter now speaks Matrix

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That was impressively quick.

Looking forward to Github/Gitlab repository rooms and activity integration.

In the acquisition announcement they also mentioned threading though, which is the most important feature Element is missing for me.

Without it I'm very hesitant to use it in a professional setting.

I do hope that threads will look much more like Zulip rather than Slack (which is a mess), or offer different view modes. Zulips nested channel concept is a game changer.

(as I understand it, the protocol already has the required plumbing)

Re: Gitter now speaks Matrix

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post #3

That was impressively quick. Looking forward to Github/Gitlab repository rooms and activity integration. In the acquisition announcement they also mentioned threading though, which is the most important feature Element is missing for me. Without it I'm very hesitant to use it in a professional setting. I do hope that threads will look much more like Zulip rather than Slack (which is a mess), or offer different view m…

Can you explain a bit more on "threading" and its relation to a chat service? And why Zulip's implementation is better?

Re: Gitter now speaks Matrix

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Can anyone explain what Matrix is and why is this interesting? Feels like we’re reinventing Jabber?

It's totally different because it is a message syncing http+json API and totally not a messaging and presence protocol based on XML. /joke

It is interesting because Matrix has money thus full-time developers, marketing, exposure, and time to defend their work to the depth of the deepest reddit thread.

(The Element page on F-Droid reads "Element is able to do all this because it operates on Matrix - the standard for open, decentralised communication.", not presumptuous at all)

Re: Gitter now speaks Matrix

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post #3

That was impressively quick. Looking forward to Github/Gitlab repository rooms and activity integration. In the acquisition announcement they also mentioned threading though, which is the most important feature Element is missing for me. Without it I'm very hesitant to use it in a professional setting. I do hope that threads will look much more like Zulip rather than Slack (which is a mess), or offer different view m…

A lot of people, including me, dislike threading in Slack. It breaks the algorithm for reading new messages. I use it when teammates do, and acknowledge it's useful sometimes, but I would prefer not to have that feature.

Discord also does not have threads. I've heard some complaints about it, but not many.

Threads in Zulip seem to change it into a different kind of app. I don't see how the Slack workspaces that I've used heavily would work with it. There are about 15 channels in my sidebar. Making them nested would turn it into 75, assuming 5 threads per channel. Perhaps there wouldn't need to be as many top-level channels with Zulip threads, but it makes it into a whole different paradigm. They are also missing Slack-style threads. I don't think it would be good to adopt it.

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