The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
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#2OT: How about hn have cached content to help minimize tracking. Blogs are dead. Not everyone is a leet Stallman adherent in practice.
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#3And the answer was In-Q-Tel and Facebook/Twitter/Google all along. Three birds with one stone: spying, brainwashing, and censorship.
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#4> I think it creates a much fuller and more perplexing picture of a person who lived such different sides of his life. In the long run, in the cosmic sense, I think you can say that commitment to a cause always gives you the justification for immoral acts. And patriotism is among the most seductive of those causes because it posits the nation as a value that's so transcendent that anything done in its service is virtuous.
I can buy that patriotism was used to sell MKULTRA to some of the rank and file who carried it out, but if I'm to believe that it's what motivated Sidney Gottlieb, Jolly West, and all the rest of its leading lights, I find the idea naive in the extreme. Even their stated motivation for originally undertaking a mind control program (after U.S. pilots supposedly came back brainwashed from Korea) is mendacious. Those pilots didn't need to be programmed to testify that we engaged in germ warfare in Korea because we actually did it!
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#5OT: How about hn have cached content to help minimize tracking. Blogs are dead. Not everyone is a leet Stallman adherent in practice.
Perhaps automate links to Wayback? Or allow alternate (secondary) links to be added by dang?
There's always a tension between per-article and per-subject that can make trying to do both worse than doing one well, so it would need a light touch.
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#6The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
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#7With Oregon legalizing magic mushrooms my interest in psychedelics has been piqued again. very keen to read more about all of this.
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#9The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
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#10> I think it creates a much fuller and more perplexing picture of a person who lived such different sides of his life. In the long run, in the cosmic sense, I think you can say that commitment to a cause always gives you the justification for immoral acts. And patriotism is among the most seductive of those causes because it posits the nation as a value that's so transcendent that anything done in its service is virt…
Perhaps the CIA's hope was to brainwash American pilots, not deprogram them. From what I understand, cult deprogramming is often a weird mirror of cult programming, using many of the same methods, with deprogramming organizations sometimes becoming cult-like themselves. That one could be confused or disguised as the other doesn't surprise me.