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Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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Re: Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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Were there any tangible benefits observed? Did the participants' heath quantifiably improve in any way? This kind of observation is missing from the article; if the expected benefits of telomere length is increased health and longevity, does the lack of such result suggest that they are less involved in aging than we think?

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> chamber inducing a state of hypoxia, or oxygen shortage, which caused the cell regeneration.

Might actually be related to life extension through calorie restriction in this regard. This paper re calories restriction mentions:

> caloric restriction improves whole body energy efficiency by inducing the biogenesis of mitochondria that utilize less oxygen and produce less reactive oxygen species (ROS). https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...

Starving the body of oxygen might trigger some of the same genetic pathways as starving it of food, basically.

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>The subjects were placed in a pressurised chamber and given pure oxygen for 90 minutes a day, five days a week for three months.

>It is understood that instead the effects were the result of the pressurised chamber inducing a state of hypoxia, or oxygen shortage, which caused the cell regeneration.

This article is garbage. What they are reporting makes no sense. Putting people in a HYPERbaric oxygen chamber shouldn't make them HYPOxic, which is what they are suggesting causes the age-reversing effect.

This fundamental misunderstanding gives me little faith they have in any way correctly interpreted and reported on the study.

Re: Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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Telomeres are intentionally shortened by the body, a process which is no doubt favored by evolution. While we don't know why for sure, it is entirely possible that telomere shortening actually lengthens life.

As telomeres become shorter, cell division becomes slower and metabolism decreases. This means that an older person's cells will reproduce at a slower rate than a younger person's in general. If we suppose that every cell division poses an equal chance at producing a life threatening cancer, then slower cell reproduction at a higher age would likely be beneficial.

Of course this is just speculation, but likely there is _some_ health benefit to telomere shortening otherwise we would not have evolved to do it.

Re: Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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I eagerly await the coming flood of DIY oxygen chamber tutorials. Hopefully no one gets hurt.

FWIW: high concentration O2 is known to be toxic in other ways. It causes lung inflamation at least (oxygen is, after all, highly reactive and tends to break up lots of different molecules). I think there's a real possibility that this does more harm than good.

Re: Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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post #5

Telomeres are intentionally shortened by the body, a process which is no doubt favored by evolution. While we don't know why for sure, it is entirely possible that telomere shortening actually lengthens life. As telomeres become shorter, cell division becomes slower and metabolism decreases. This means that an older person's cells will reproduce at a slower rate than a younger person's in general. If we suppose that…

My guess is that the shortening of telomeres—and the presumed aging effects—is evolutionarily beneficial because it sets an expiration date on your life. If people could live forever they may prohibit other younger and genetically different people from reproducing and introducing variety in the gene pool.

Certainly having wealthier people live forever now would be bad from a social perspective. Time is really the biggest factor in acquiring wealth and influence. If that goes unchecked then that power can become out of control. Realistically I dont think it was that different thousands of years ago.

Re: Human Ageing Reversed in ‘Holy Grail’ Study, Scientists Say

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> chamber inducing a state of hypoxia, or oxygen shortage, which caused the cell regeneration. Might actually be related to life extension through calorie restriction in this regard. This paper re calories restriction mentions: > caloric restriction improves whole body energy efficiency by inducing the biogenesis of mitochondria that utilize less oxygen and produce less reactive oxygen species (ROS). https://journals…

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3901353/

I thought the free radical/antioxidant stuff was done with?

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