The Secret Math Society Known as Nicolas Bourbaki
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The Secret Math Society Known as Nicolas Bourbaki
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#4The clever part of the novel - and I can't even remember the name - was that the "discovery" they made was PCR. It made it seem a lot better then if the novelist had just created some magic invention for the characters. Made it much more grounded - as I remember it. That said, how good could it be if I can't remember the name of the book.
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#7I have actually heard of this group before, thanks to an obscure reference in a Twenty One Pilots song oddly enough: https://genius.com/15480382
This band has adopted the character of Nicolas Bourbaki in their concept album Trench. It's interesting since they commonly use the symbol Ø in their branding, which was introduced in mathematics by Nicolas Bourbaki to denote an empty set.
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#8The Bourbaki Gambit (1994) by Carl Djerassi
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#9https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00stcgv
all the episodes were great.
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#10I wish more science, and generally more work was done this way. Dispense with ego-flattering prizes, narratives of discovery that put lone geniuses in the spotlight, turning PIs heroes and dictators at the expense of their team... I understand this is not practical for all fields, but it would alleviate much of the pettiness and unethical behaviors that have become so normalized in academia.
One criticism I have heard from professional mathematicians is that Bourbaki wasted a whole generation of French talent, pulling the best young mathematicians away from their own useful and interesting research to assign to them a project of marginal benefit if any, because being a member of Bourbaki was in itself prestigious. The work tries to be entirely self-contained instead of part of a conversation, which leads to insularity, arbitrary “not-invented-here” reformulation of established concepts, ignoring outside developments, and lack of historical links and attributions. It is essentially all reworking of previously known mathematics, rather than any new discovery.
I am not a mathematician, and I don’t really have insight into the opportunity cost of research potential for the people involved, but personally I think the Bourbakist style has been very harmful to mathematics: it is entirely dry and formal, eschewing motivation, examples, or pictures. As a reference for professionals it might be okay, but the same style has infected broad swaths of mathematics teaching, and it serves to chase away many newcomers, almost like a kind of hazing ritual.
But Bourbaki is to say the least a controversial group. I don’t think it should uncritically be taken as a model for other researchers.