Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by well_i_never » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 5:33 PM UTC

Hegel and the History of Human Nature
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Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by eicossa » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 7:30 AM UTC

Is it just me or is anybody else also reminded of "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral mind" while reading this ?

I have a hunch that ancient peoples could not conceive of a state of clinical depression. That comes along with the modern emphasis on "me" and "my goals" and "my desires"

As Soren Kierkegaard put it "Anxiety is the price of freedom"

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by chordalkeyboard » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 7:49 AM UTC

here is a good lecture on Hegel by the legendary philosophy Professor Rick Roderick:

http://rickroderick.org/105-hegel-and-modern-life-1990/

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by mrphoebs » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 8:28 AM UTC

eicossa wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is anybody else also reminded of "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral mind" while reading this ? I have a hunch that ancient peoples could not conceive of a state of clinical depression. That comes along with the modern emphasis on "me" and "my goals" and "my desires" As Soren Kierkegaard put it "Anxiety is the price of freedom"

Thanks for the mention of julian jaynes' book, never heard of it before, seems like quite an interesting read.

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by darawk » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 10:07 AM UTC

mrphoebs wrote: post #4

eicossa wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is anybody else also reminded of "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral mind" while reading this ? I have a hunch that ancient peoples could not conceive of a state of clinical depression. That comes along with the modern emphasis on "me" and "my goals" and "my desires" As Soren Kierkegaard put it "Anxiety is the price of freedom"

Thanks for the mention of julian jaynes' book, never heard of it before, seems like quite an interesting read.

Slate Star Codex has a really great review of it, if you want to get a more in-depth idea of it before actually reading it: https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/01/book-review-origin-of-...

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by charlysl » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 10:25 AM UTC

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #3

here is a good lecture on Hegel by the legendary philosophy Professor Rick Roderick: http://rickroderick.org/105-hegel-and-modern-life-1990/

There is also Bernstein's course (better start with his Kant tapes though).

https://bernsteintapes.com/hegellist.html

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by mrphoebs » Fri, Nov 06, 2020, 1:14 PM UTC

darawk wrote: post #5

mrphoebs wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the mention of julian jaynes' book, never heard of it before, seems like quite an interesting read.

Slate Star Codex has a really great review of it, if you want to get a more in-depth idea of it before actually reading it: https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/01/book-review-origin-of-...

Still in the midst of reading it and it's been fascinating from the get go. Thanks for the link.

Re: Hegel and the History of Human Nature

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Post by knolax » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 9:29 AM UTC

eicossa wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is anybody else also reminded of "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral mind" while reading this ? I have a hunch that ancient peoples could not conceive of a state of clinical depression. That comes along with the modern emphasis on "me" and "my goals" and "my desires" As Soren Kierkegaard put it "Anxiety is the price of freedom"

Every time I am reminded of that book I become more and more convinced that humanities people are not fully sentient but are in fact advanced Markov chains.