Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
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Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#2States just need to start mandating LIDAR for any level of autonomous certification, in the same way we finally figured out seatbelts were the minimum level of safety for passenger retention.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#3States just need to start mandating LIDAR for any level of autonomous certification, in the same way we finally figured out seatbelts were the minimum level of safety for passenger retention.
Mandating how a certain outcome should be achieved generally is not the best (efficient, quickest, cheapest, etc.) way in getting to that outcome. Autonomous certification should have its safety requirements for each level and require the vehicles meet that standard.
Autonomous vehicles have the potential to reduce deaths and injuries dramatically and increasing the time to get there will cause thousands to millions of more deaths and an order of magnitude more injuries, not to mention property damage.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#4Hacked billboards are hard to come by. We've already seen signs that autopilot can be tricked by malicious lines on a road.
Not that long 'til somebody points a projector at the ground in front of a Tesla and it crosses into oncoming traffic. You could even mount that projector on a panel van, and use image recognition to target Teslas and otherwise stay inactive
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#5Hacked billboards are hard to come by. We've already seen signs that autopilot can be tricked by malicious lines on a road. Not that long 'til somebody points a projector at the ground in front of a Tesla and it crosses into oncoming traffic. You could even mount that projector on a panel van, and use image recognition to target Teslas and otherwise stay inactive
That's what the article says. Hacked billboards were one method, drones with a projector were another, and the image only had to be shown for less than a second to cause the car to react.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#6Clever but don’t forget you can also ‘hack’ human drivers by showing flashing patterns or just generally distracting them.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#7Hacked billboards are hard to come by. We've already seen signs that autopilot can be tricked by malicious lines on a road. Not that long 'til somebody points a projector at the ground in front of a Tesla and it crosses into oncoming traffic. You could even mount that projector on a panel van, and use image recognition to target Teslas and otherwise stay inactive
> projector at the ground in front of a Tesla and it crosses into oncoming traffic
I don't understand why people come up with all these ridiculous "what if" ideas against autonomous cars as if it's anything new.
It's already exceedingly easy to foul up a human driver. Stand next to a freeway and hold up a stop sign. Drop a foam mannequin from a bridge over the road. Paint some bogus lane lines. Shine a laser at their face.
Any of the above will cause accidents with humans, and you'll be arrested and charged with a felony. Deliberate attempts to compromise autonomous car systems carrying humans inside should be treated no differently.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#8States just need to start mandating LIDAR for any level of autonomous certification, in the same way we finally figured out seatbelts were the minimum level of safety for passenger retention.
Not necessarily mandating LIDAR but at least mandating functional redundancy for self-driving / driving assistance. I'm guessing that won't happen until the deaths start piling up though.
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#9Hacked billboards are hard to come by. We've already seen signs that autopilot can be tricked by malicious lines on a road. Not that long 'til somebody points a projector at the ground in front of a Tesla and it crosses into oncoming traffic. You could even mount that projector on a panel van, and use image recognition to target Teslas and otherwise stay inactive
That's what the article says. Hacked billboards were one method, drones with a projector were another, and the image only had to be shown for less than a second to cause the car to react.
Did they try the same with unwitting human drivers?
Re: Hacked billboards make Teslas see phantom objects causing them to swerve or stop
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what the article says. Hacked billboards were one method, drones with a projector were another, and the image only had to be shown for less than a second to cause the car to react.
Did they try the same with unwitting human drivers?
Read the article and find out.