Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by itistoday » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:16 PM UTC

Private Manning’s Humiliation
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Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

#2

Post by sudonim » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:33 PM UTC

There's an article every day on hacker news about violations of people's rights in the United States. Yesterday it was about the FBI using gag orders to illegally get information about citizens. Today it is Obama violating the US constitution.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? If it's not happening to you, or you don't know about it, you don't care. If it is happening to you, you're powerless to stop it. That's the genius of the whole thing.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by VladRussian » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:35 PM UTC

the public is easy to sell on the necessary torture performed outside of the country and only to obvious terrorists. Next step is moving it closer, onto the country's soil and performed on a citizen, though still an obvious public enemy. Next steps to continue.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by dpatru » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:41 PM UTC

Thanks for posting this.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by husein10 » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:43 PM UTC

how will/should obama respond?

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by VladRussian » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:46 PM UTC

sudonim wrote: post #2

There's an article every day on hacker news about violations of people's rights in the United States. Yesterday it was about the FBI using gag orders to illegally get information about citizens. Today it is Obama violating the US constitution. What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? If it's not happening to you, or you don't know about it, you don't care. If it is happening to you, you're powerle…

as long as there are people who is ready to perform the acts of violation of rights or torture, it will go on. "Nothing personal, just doing my job" is a lie. It is always personal. The people doing it are enjoying the power over their subjects. It is human nature. You'd see it the moment you understand that any "inhumane" behavior is a behavior exhibited only by humans.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by itistoday » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 9:49 PM UTC

Why isn't this on the front page given the number of upvotes it's gotten (12 in 32 minutes?).

Yet this is?

  Show HN: New Fwix Local API (from the team at Fwix)
  4 points by goo 56 minutes ago | flag | 1 comment

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by mkr-hn » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 10:09 PM UTC

itistoday wrote: post #7

Why isn't this on the front page given the number of upvotes it's gotten (12 in 32 minutes?). Yet this is? Show HN: New Fwix Local API (from the team at Fwix) 4 points by goo 56 minutes ago | flag | 1 comment

Because mob rule would turn HN into a reddit without the option to remove mob strongholds from view.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by itistoday » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 10:12 PM UTC

mkr-hn wrote: post #8

itistoday wrote: post #7

Why isn't this on the front page given the number of upvotes it's gotten (12 in 32 minutes?). Yet this is? Show HN: New Fwix Local API (from the team at Fwix) 4 points by goo 56 minutes ago | flag | 1 comment

Because mob rule would turn HN into a reddit without the option to remove mob strongholds from view.

That this story is being silenced out in so many places... blows my mind. HN should be ashamed to participate in the censorship.

The President of the United States is blatantly violating the Constitution (in one of the worst ways), and nobody cares.

Re: Private Manning’s Humiliation

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Post by mkr-hn » Fri, Apr 22, 2011, 10:16 PM UTC

itistoday wrote: post #9

mkr-hn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because mob rule would turn HN into a reddit without the option to remove mob strongholds from view.

That this story is being silenced out in so many places... blows my mind. HN should be ashamed to participate in the censorship. The President of the United States is blatantly violating the Constitution (in one of the worst ways), and nobody cares.

The submission needs a less inflammatory title. I don't see any evidence in the article that Obama is specifically calling for this or that he has any say in Manning's treatment.