Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by curiousfab » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 12:21 PM UTC

Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M
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Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by drmpeg » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

The precise numbers are 4,194,304 * $26.13 = $109,597,164 - broker fee of $545,260 = $109,051,904 net.

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Post by zaroth » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

drmpeg wrote: post #2

The precise numbers are 4,194,304 * $26.13 = $109,597,164 - broker fee of $545,260 = $109,051,904 net.

So that makes the current IPv4 address space total market cap ~$112 billion.

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by rswail » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 2:47 PM UTC

Is there any wonder that moving to IPv6 is delayed?

Assuming an average $25/address, that's $400m/class A.

Some of the organizations that own a class A:

Apple, Ford, Softbank, Daimler, Prudential, Comcast.

Softbank needs the money and the others wouldn't sniff at $300m+.

Not sure how long the 100m odd addresses would last though.

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by rhombocombus » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:19 PM UTC

I winced when I first read this because I thought they had sold the whole block, however reading that it was a subset I think ultimately this is a win for amateur radio and radio telecommunications more broadly because of the endowment it produced.

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Post by fulafel » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:26 PM UTC

Anyone have pointers to the history of IP addresses becoming tradeable, as opposed to just being allocations and up to registrar to reallocate?

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by aidenn0 » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:38 PM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #3

drmpeg wrote: post #2

The precise numbers are 4,194,304 * $26.13 = $109,597,164 - broker fee of $545,260 = $109,051,904 net.

So that makes the current IPv4 address space total market cap ~$112 billion.

There are roughly 20 class 8s worth of special addresses, which reduces that by $10 billion or so.

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by ampdepolymerase » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:46 PM UTC

Is TLS legal over AMPRnet?

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by tomfanning » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

ampdepolymerase wrote: post #8

Is TLS legal over AMPRnet?

Not over licensed RF links in most countries, unless you publish the private key.

Re: Sale of amateur radio AMPRnet TCP/IP addresses raised $108M

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Post by manquer » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 3:51 PM UTC

rswail wrote: post #4

Is there any wonder that moving to IPv6 is delayed? Assuming an average $25/address, that's $400m/class A. Some of the organizations that own a class A: Apple, Ford, Softbank, Daimler, Prudential, Comcast. Softbank needs the money and the others wouldn't sniff at $300m+. Not sure how long the 100m odd addresses would last though.

Apple and Comcast probably can use them.

Also Comcast may have to invest more in NAT grade infra if they sell significant chunk of their Class A allocation so it may not make sense for them.