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Re: Amazon One – Palm recognition for Amazon Go

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons. One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm.

> When you hold your palm over the Amazon One device, the technology evaluates multiple aspects of your palm. No two palms are alike, so we analyze all these aspects with our vision technology and select the most distinct identifiers on your palm to create your palm signature.

Can someone ELI5 this to me? Is there some biological thing I am missing here or is it just as simple as, unlike fingerprints which are commonplace, other organisations tend not to have images of your palms?

Re: Amazon One – Palm recognition for Amazon Go

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons. One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm. > When you hold your palm over the Amazon One device, the technology evaluates multiple aspects of your palm. No two palms are alike, so we analyze all these aspects with our vi…

One imagines once Amazon starts cataloguing palms, quite a few government and law enforcement agencies will suddenly tend to have quite a lot of images of palms!

I expect they were trying to contrast with face recognition, though.

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons. One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm. > When you hold your palm over the Amazon One device, the technology evaluates multiple aspects of your palm. No two palms are alike, so we analyze all these aspects with our vi…

Sounds like palm prints are even easier to harvest from public figures than fingerprints. Take a photo at a speech, you can likely make a silicone mold replicating their palm, and you get to shop for groceries with their card.

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons. One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm. > When you hold your palm over the Amazon One device, the technology evaluates multiple aspects of your palm. No two palms are alike, so we analyze all these aspects with our vi…

At a guess they are probably saying that a human when looking at a picture of a palm would not be able to tell you who it is, unlike a picture of someone that includes their face or body. Seems a bit of a pointless distinction as the Amazon Go stores heavily rely on cameras to track people when in store.

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons.

I'm sure the main one was that people associate fingerprints with being arrested, but maybe they could trick people into volunteering to be constantly fingerprinted by a private company if they just used a different part of the hand.

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> We selected palm recognition for a few important reasons. One reason was that palm recognition is considered more private than some biometric alternatives because you can’t determine a person’s identity by looking at an image of their palm. > When you hold your palm over the Amazon One device, the technology evaluates multiple aspects of your palm. No two palms are alike, so we analyze all these aspects with our vi…

One imagines once Amazon starts cataloguing palms, quite a few government and law enforcement agencies will suddenly tend to have quite a lot of images of palms! I expect they were trying to contrast with face recognition, though.

> I expect they were trying to contrast with face recognition, though.

That's how I understand it too, I think this is just UX, by the time you check out they know who you are and what did you pick up, so I think the palm is just a gesture to confirm, maybe confirming by walking away the store with item or with a face was a weird user experience, and they are trying confirmation "by hand". Or I'm curious what happen to the, "you just walk away with your items" experience?

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One imagines once Amazon starts cataloguing palms, quite a few government and law enforcement agencies will suddenly tend to have quite a lot of images of palms! I expect they were trying to contrast with face recognition, though.

> I expect they were trying to contrast with face recognition, though. That's how I understand it too, I think this is just UX, by the time you check out they know who you are and what did you pick up, so I think the palm is just a gesture to confirm, maybe confirming by walking away the store with item or with a face was a weird user experience, and they are trying confirmation "by hand". Or I'm curious what happen…

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