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Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

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Re: Amazon details its low-bandwidth Sidewalk neighborhood network

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So this is basically yet another reason to not let Amazon echo/Alexa on your network.

From a technical and privacy standpoint, is there a huge difference to the Apple U1 device network - with the limited amount of information that’s been made public?

I’m coming from a position of limited knowledge on both platforms, so curious.

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So this is basically yet another reason to not let Amazon echo/Alexa on your network.

From a technical and privacy standpoint, is there a huge difference to the Apple U1 device network - with the limited amount of information that’s been made public? I’m coming from a position of limited knowledge on both platforms, so curious.

Amazon's Ring device and how they work with police raises a lot of questions about what these devices will report, to whom, and etc:

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/8/20903536/amazon-ring-do...

Makes you wonder that even if you choose not to share with police, if your amazon devices will help someone else's device do so...

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Are there legal implications on an ISP subscriber if illegal activity is conducted via their network? I would very much mind sharing a ‘small fraction of bandwidth’ while having arbitrarily large legal exposure.

My guess is that the legal exposure would be minimal because you'll only be able to connect to whitelisted endpoints (basically whoever partners up with AMZN).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a technical and privacy standpoint, is there a huge difference to the Apple U1 device network - with the limited amount of information that’s been made public? I’m coming from a position of limited knowledge on both platforms, so curious.

Amazon's Ring device and how they work with police raises a lot of questions about what these devices will report, to whom, and etc: https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/8/20903536/amazon-ring-do... Makes you wonder that even if you choose not to share with police, if your amazon devices will help someone else's device do so...

>Makes you wonder that even if you choose not to share with police, if your amazon devices will help someone else's device do so...

It's safe to assume whoever's buying a ring doorbell probably has internet access as well so it's a moot point.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a technical and privacy standpoint, is there a huge difference to the Apple U1 device network - with the limited amount of information that’s been made public? I’m coming from a position of limited knowledge on both platforms, so curious.

Amazon's Ring device and how they work with police raises a lot of questions about what these devices will report, to whom, and etc: https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/8/20903536/amazon-ring-do... Makes you wonder that even if you choose not to share with police, if your amazon devices will help someone else's device do so...

> Makes you wonder that even if you choose not to share with police

This is a false choice, because police don't need your permission to obtain video evidence on Amazon's servers if they have a warrant or court order. They don't even have to notify you if they look at it or use it as evidence, either.

Most of the time law enforcement just asks providers nicely for the data they want access to, and providers comply. No warrant is even needed in that scenario.

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