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Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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I believe the link is pointing somewhere else (everchanging?). The real URL should be https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/07/coronavir... , although I'm not sure that's stable either.

Yes, your link appears stable. I thought I'd linked to it when I posted, but I messed up, I guess. My bad.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer.

But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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When two countries each discourage or prohibit travel to or from the other, they cannot both be right, and the policy may be motivated by more than public health concerns.

It's possible to make a case that travel in and of itself is risky, as you will spend more time in enclosed spaces with strangers than usual, including planes, airports, public transport, taxis, and hotel lobbies. But much of that also applies to domestic travel.

Norway gets the benefit of the doubt here that, unlike some large north-American countries, it doesn't resort to cheap xenophobia as a political strategy. And, indeed, the quote from the article offers a specific alternative: "I think most of us have now understood the holiday is over”, says the minister of health. That hints at a somewhat puritanical frustration from even the thought of others enjoying themselves in these times.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

Meteoric rise in xenophobia? What are you talking about?

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post #6
post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

Meteoric rise in xenophobia? What are you talking about?

Xenophobia is mistreatment of the foreigner.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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When two countries each discourage or prohibit travel to or from the other, they cannot both be right, and the policy may be motivated by more than public health concerns. It's possible to make a case that travel in and of itself is risky, as you will spend more time in enclosed spaces with strangers than usual, including planes, airports, public transport, taxis, and hotel lobbies. But much of that also applies to d…

> they cannot both be right

Why not?

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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When two countries each discourage or prohibit travel to or from the other, they cannot both be right, and the policy may be motivated by more than public health concerns. It's possible to make a case that travel in and of itself is risky, as you will spend more time in enclosed spaces with strangers than usual, including planes, airports, public transport, taxis, and hotel lobbies. But much of that also applies to d…

> When two countries each discourage or prohibit travel to or from the other, they cannot both be right

I don't entirely buy that premise. It's easier to contact trace and control other factors when everything is domestic. And it also keeps random outbursts much more local.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

In Denmark, at least, as long as you live, work, or even if you are a relative to someone or a couple, you can get into the country. So there shouldn't be a problem in your case :) (it's basically meant to only limit tourism).

Does Norway handle this differently?

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