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The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

m.nautil.us

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Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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It's true that drugs like MDMA or Mephedrone can cause an outpuring of feelings very much similar to what you feel when really loving someone (in my time in university, Mephedrone used to be called "The Big Love" by partaking students, it was legal then). However, a sober examination of those feelings after some time may reveal to you an underlying "fakeness", in the sense that what you were showing was not really a true image, but rather a caricature of your feelings. It does not mean that you do not genuinely like the person you declared "your true soulmate" while under the influence, but these words really mean nothing unless spoken sober.

As sooon as you start messing with your brain chemistry, everything you say is being stripped of meaning as it becomes more driven by emotions and less by reason. At some point it's like trying to interpret dreams - there might be some emotional content there, but its not applicable in the real world more than just a cause for reflection (which is good) to find some true insights.

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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Jesus christ this is so dystopian. I've always thought of love and fear as the main things that make humans human

Many animals have a hypothalamus. Love[1] is more complicated but in my experience well within the behavioural range of many mammals, and potentially some birds. If we count maternal love, we'd get just about all K-strategists.

[1] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0908/7624/products/Webp.ne...

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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Brings to mind a dark dystopian corner where this could take us - as imagined by Stanislaw Lem in his 1971 "The Futurological Congress" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Futurological_Congress It is a short and highly recommended read.

I also recommend The Congress (2013) movie which is based on the novel.

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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It's true that drugs like MDMA or Mephedrone can cause an outpuring of feelings very much similar to what you feel when really loving someone (in my time in university, Mephedrone used to be called "The Big Love" by partaking students, it was legal then). However, a sober examination of those feelings after some time may reveal to you an underlying "fakeness", in the sense that what you were showing was not really a…

In vino veritas, is there a consensus whether under the influence is fake and being sober is the not fake state of things?

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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It's true that drugs like MDMA or Mephedrone can cause an outpuring of feelings very much similar to what you feel when really loving someone (in my time in university, Mephedrone used to be called "The Big Love" by partaking students, it was legal then). However, a sober examination of those feelings after some time may reveal to you an underlying "fakeness", in the sense that what you were showing was not really a…

"everything you say is being stripped of meaning as it becomes more driven by emotions and less by reason"

Only if you believe emotions have no meaning.

An emotional response is a valid one, even if it does not help your startup. Not all human affairs are about profit maximisation. Reason is not the best tool in your toolbox to use if you want to fall in love. mdma probably is.

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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Jesus christ this is so dystopian. I've always thought of love and fear as the main things that make humans human

Love and fear are the least human I'd wager. They are mammalian in the case of love and even lower in the case of fear. It's rational thought that sets us apart, the rest is shared machinery. Some animals have _more_ emotional machinery than we do. (Orcas)

Re: The Brave New World of Chemical Romance

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Jesus christ this is so dystopian. I've always thought of love and fear as the main things that make humans human

Many animals have a hypothalamus. Love[1] is more complicated but in my experience well within the behavioural range of many mammals, and potentially some birds. If we count maternal love, we'd get just about all K-strategists. [1] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0908/7624/products/Webp.ne...

Love, dear, is strictly for the birds
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