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Re: Request for Technically Risky Projects

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Post by manx »

Creating a "Wikipedia of Arguments", one can refer to in public discussions.

It turns out that this is a way harder problem than I thought. I'm in this space for some time now and am happy to talk about it.

Relevant links: https://github.com/canonical-debate-lab/paper/blob/master/RE...

https://www.societylibrary.org/

Re: Request for Technically Risky Projects

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Post by jka »

manx wrote: post #2

Creating a "Wikipedia of Arguments", one can refer to in public discussions. It turns out that this is a way harder problem than I thought. I'm in this space for some time now and am happy to talk about it. Relevant links: https://github.com/canonical-debate-lab/paper/blob/master/RE... https://www.societylibrary.org/

Let's hope that a well-constructed, well-behaved and well-participated argument forum maintained over long enough timescales can lead towards better outcomes for everyone. Best of luck with the project.

You might be aware of it already, but just in case, the most progress I've seen in the area of web-based argument mapping has been Arguman ( https://github.com/arguman/arguman.org ). They're also following an open source model and there could be opportunities to co-operate and/or share ideas.

Re: Request for Technically Risky Projects

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Post by rapnie »

ragerino wrote: post #6
rapnie wrote: post #4

Decentralized search in p2p / federated networks. Privacy-respecting decentralized online identity.

I am sure you know about Solid. Just in case: https://solidproject.org/

Thanks. Yes, I do. There is a lot of work in the field of decentralized identity, but status is still far from a 'solved problem'. Work being done by Rebooting the Web of Trust [0] (see their github repo's) and Identity Foundation [1]. Besides Solid there's a bunch of interesting, related specs evolving like Verifiable Credentials [2], Self Sovereign Identity (I hope for impls without the blockchain).

[0] http://www.weboftrust.info/

[1] https://identity.foundation/

[2] https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model/

Re: Request for Technically Risky Projects

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Post by manx »

jka wrote: post #5
manx wrote: post #2

Creating a "Wikipedia of Arguments", one can refer to in public discussions. It turns out that this is a way harder problem than I thought. I'm in this space for some time now and am happy to talk about it. Relevant links: https://github.com/canonical-debate-lab/paper/blob/master/RE... https://www.societylibrary.org/

Let's hope that a well-constructed, well-behaved and well-participated argument forum maintained over long enough timescales can lead towards better outcomes for everyone. Best of luck with the project. You might be aware of it already, but just in case, the most progress I've seen in the area of web-based argument mapping has been Arguman ( https://github.com/arguman/arguman.org ). They're also following an open sou…

Thanks, I'm aware of it. There are quite a lot of tools in this space already. Unfortunately, many are unaware of each-other and therefore making the same mistakes and learnings over and over again.

Looking at all these tools makes it clear how difficult it is to create one that actually "works".

Most of the researchers at the canonical debate lab created their own tool in the past and are now discussing how a next-generation tool should look like.

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