Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
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Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#2estrogen, ketamine, actual therapy whats the difference?
edit, for those that can't tell: /s the intent is to highlight the absurdity of a system that clearly needs changing across the board, not just in one prison in one municipality.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#3estrogen, ketamine, actual therapy whats the difference? edit, for those that can't tell: /s the intent is to highlight the absurdity of a system that clearly needs changing across the board, not just in one prison in one municipality.
well, the main issue is that people usually opt for estrogen/ketamine therapy voluntarily and for specific problems those therapies are supposed to address (estrogen for gender reassignment, ketamine for chronic depression), neither of which seems to be the case here.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#4estrogen, ketamine, actual therapy whats the difference? edit, for those that can't tell: /s the intent is to highlight the absurdity of a system that clearly needs changing across the board, not just in one prison in one municipality.
Sarcasm?
Behavioral disorder therapy is not equal to hormone therapy.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#5The doctor should be stripped of their license.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#6estrogen, ketamine, actual therapy whats the difference? edit, for those that can't tell: /s the intent is to highlight the absurdity of a system that clearly needs changing across the board, not just in one prison in one municipality.
One is medically approved, while the other sounds to be like some experiment/retribution that someone did to a minor. Do you really not see the difference here?
> “Estrogen is not a treatment for ODD. I can’t be more emphatic about that,” McGough said. “You won’t find a reference anywhere that supports the use of estrogen for ODD.”
There's no way this was medically approved.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#7estrogen, ketamine, actual therapy whats the difference? edit, for those that can't tell: /s the intent is to highlight the absurdity of a system that clearly needs changing across the board, not just in one prison in one municipality.
Sarcasm? Behavioral disorder therapy is not equal to hormone therapy.
yes, sarcasm. this system seems to use random cocktails on people with no medical evaluation to support it. this is america.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#8> Prior to that, Ouchi said, his client felt compelled to take the pills because he feared that disobeying Wang would have a detrimental effect on his pending criminal case.
Makes you wonder what all kind of shady medical shit is done in jails and prisons.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#9The doctor should be stripped of their license.
Given that nobody seems to be able to account for his decision, it seems like maybe he should be in prison.
If somebody assaults my testicles and renders me infertile, that is an extremely serious crime; this doctor may well have done the equivalent (along with completely destroying the boy mentally) with the stroke of a pen.
Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#10I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring).
This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice like this.
“When I found out they were giving him the pill, I was like, why didn’t they ask me? When I found out what kind of pill was it, I was like, this is terrible,” the father said. “He’s only 16, and they were forcing him to take it.”
This is the only bit in question. Seems like the jail should be found culpable for not notifying the parent of any treatment details.