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Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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As an intended MBA applicant for the class of 2021, the recent uncertainty around H1B visas makes me very uneasy and disappointed. I was forced to leave the U.S. back in 2016 despite having an investment banking job and paying meaningful taxes, which was incredibly frustrating. I was hoping for another shot at living and working in the US after completing an MBA, and now it looks like there either won't be a chance or it will be at best a shot in the dark. I am now seriously considering avoiding U.S. schools altogether and applying for top business schools in Europe such as LBS and INSEAD.

Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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H1B is terrible for the employees, and for those who work alongside them. Companies try to slow down green cards, and use H1Bs as virtual indentured servants.

They also fake looking for Americans- in practice, many of the jobs are earmarked for a specific person, and you are wasting your time applying for it.

Losing your job as an h1b requires you to leave almost immediately, which isn't great for anyone.

Hopefully they'll reform the process to focus on bringing talent into the country without chaining it to a specific company

Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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H1B visas provide employers every incentive to lie to import cheap talent and work them hard.

There are ways to meet the very real need to import the best brains from around the world. But H1B isn't set up to do this very effectively.

Off the top of my head, a better option would be to allow immigration with a $60k bond to the government that has to be paid down at $1k/month by the current employer. With the employee in question able to transfer jobs at any time with the bond transferring to the new employer.

Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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post #5

H1B is terrible for the employees, and for those who work alongside them. Companies try to slow down green cards, and use H1Bs as virtual indentured servants. They also fake looking for Americans- in practice, many of the jobs are earmarked for a specific person, and you are wasting your time applying for it. Losing your job as an h1b requires you to leave almost immediately, which isn't great for anyone. Hopefully t…

The "without chaining it to a specific company" is critical. When the employee is chained to a company, the company has every incentive to lie then treat the employee poorly. When the employee is not chained to the company, the company has incentives to tell the truth then treat the employee well.

Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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Most H-1B to green card conversions are never really offered as competitive jobs. The job postings are so ludicrously specific that they are targeted to that one exact person. Plus, the pay is always lower.

If we can't do the job ourselves, we shouldn't have the job.

Re: Andrew Ng: The suspension of H1B is bad for the US and bad for innovation

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post #5

H1B is terrible for the employees, and for those who work alongside them. Companies try to slow down green cards, and use H1Bs as virtual indentured servants. They also fake looking for Americans- in practice, many of the jobs are earmarked for a specific person, and you are wasting your time applying for it. Losing your job as an h1b requires you to leave almost immediately, which isn't great for anyone. Hopefully t…

I would fully support reform. Do you think there is a meaningful chance that is the current plan?
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