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US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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Where I live it's customary for the police to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints on days that people are especially likely to be drinking and driving (e.g. New Year's Eve). For awhile I didn't understand why they would do this (and I know a lot of people who still don't get it).

If your goal is to catch people driving drunk, then no, it doesn't make sense to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints. If however your goal is to prevent people from driving drunk in the first place, it might make sense to announce checkpoints at a number of locations throughout the city. If the potential drunk driver knows he can't go too many places without passing though a checkpoint he may decide to just stay home.

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Where I live it's customary for the police to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints on days that people are especially likely to be drinking and driving (e.g. New Year's Eve). For awhile I didn't understand why they would do this (and I know a lot of people who still don't get it). If your goal is to catch people driving drunk, then no, it doesn't make sense to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints. If howeve…

What if people simply want to avoid checkpoints and not have the interruption in their day?

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While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent.

this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available.

It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this line of reasoning holds, couldn't you say the same thing about encryption? It enables people who wish to engage in illegal activities to avoid government authority and thus, shouldn't even be available? Scary.

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Where I live it's customary for the police to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints on days that people are especially likely to be drinking and driving (e.g. New Year's Eve). For awhile I didn't understand why they would do this (and I know a lot of people who still don't get it). If your goal is to catch people driving drunk, then no, it doesn't make sense to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints. If howeve…

My assumption was always that they did these announcements so that people would be inconvenienced and could avoid the checkpoints. The rationale being that if you're too drunk to drive, you probably forgot about the checkpoint anyway and are likely to get caught.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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Where I live it's customary for the police to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints on days that people are especially likely to be drinking and driving (e.g. New Year's Eve). For awhile I didn't understand why they would do this (and I know a lot of people who still don't get it). If your goal is to catch people driving drunk, then no, it doesn't make sense to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints. If howeve…

I believe it serves several purposes:

1. It hops to discourage people from drinking and driving in the first place by planting the idea that there will be checkpoints. The best time to avoid DUIs is before the driver starts drinking. Ideally, they'll make alternative arrangements to get home from wherever it is they're going rather than taking the car and figuring it out after;

2. To enable those capable of driving to avoid the checkpoints. The premise for this is that those who are drinking and driving either are capable of making this kind of rational forethought or they're not and the police are largely interested in catches those that aren't; and

3. Possibly to divert those that are borderline cases from driving through areas where they might cause the most damage if something does go wrong.

I know people like to see speed traps and DUI checkpoints as cynical revenue-raising initiatives but you'd be surprised to learn that some people just don't want others to act irresponsibly by driving several tons of metal at high speed while impaired, possibly harming or killing themselves or others.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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Where I live it's customary for the police to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints on days that people are especially likely to be drinking and driving (e.g. New Year's Eve). For awhile I didn't understand why they would do this (and I know a lot of people who still don't get it). If your goal is to catch people driving drunk, then no, it doesn't make sense to announce the locations of DUI checkpoints. If howeve…

IANAL, but it is my understanding that police announce checkpoints for legal reasons. And if that is the case and the reasons are based on Federal Law or Constitutional decisions, it makes the request by Senators entirely inappropriate.

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It used to be that Danish police would tell the radio stations where they would conduct station people with radar guns to check for people driving too fast.

Since the goal was to prevent speeding, it didn't matter if they slowed down because they wanted to avoid a ticket so long as they slowed down.

These days they don't do so anymore because it is a nice way to pad government coffers, but it would be nice to build such an app.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?
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