‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
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Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#2In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website.
The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by the Dallas Police Department in defining its new order.
Seeing how well that has worked in Minneapolis, what are the chances that this will work in Dallas?
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#3In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
The officers were all arrested and the entire MPD is potentially getting dismantled, so Dallas might take the policy a bit more seriously.
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#4In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
> Seeing how well that has worked in Minneapolis, what are the chances that this will work in Dallas?
I think we can all agree that until there's actually some accountability enforced continuously by civilian oversight, this will not help.
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#5In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
>>Seeing how well that has worked in Minneapolis, what are the chances that this will work in Dallas?
We have laws against murder and people still do it. But life in jail crosses their mind or at least should before doing it.
Another thing they should do is make it a bit easier to sue them individually for clearly violating civil rights.
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#6In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
The officers were all arrested and the entire MPD is potentially getting dismantled, so Dallas might take the policy a bit more seriously.
What does getting dismantled mean? You close and reopen with the same people? Or you close and start from scratch with unexperienced ppl (assuming a large pool of applicants)?
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#7In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
Chokeholds were also banned by the NYPD since 1993, decades before Daniel Pantaleo used one to murder Eric Garner.
Policies to improve the police’s war on us will be wholly ineffective. We need drastic changes, such as what it looks like Minneapolis is poised to do.
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#8In Minneapolis, where Floyd died, a duty to intervene policy has been on the books since 2016, according to the city’s website. The policy reads: “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required,” — word for word the same language used by…
The officers were all arrested and the entire MPD is potentially getting dismantled, so Dallas might take the policy a bit more seriously.
Would they have been arrested were it not for the national uproar?
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
The officers were all arrested and the entire MPD is potentially getting dismantled, so Dallas might take the policy a bit more seriously.
What does getting dismantled mean? You close and reopen with the same people? Or you close and start from scratch with unexperienced ppl (assuming a large pool of applicants)?
One obvious option is to build a new police department entirely out of officers poached from the police departments of other counties/states—preferably from cities that manage to have both high racial diversity and low rates of questionable police violence. Other public-servant roles (e.g. postal workers) get relocated between cities this way all the time, being moved to where there’s demand.
Another option is to just have no official city police department (i.e. a group with warranted immunity from criminal prosecution for “exercising one’s duties”), only an informal community watch/militia of regular citizens entirely out of the hands of top-down municipal control. There are functional communities that operate this way, e.g. Cheran in Mexico (https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37612083)
Re: ‘Duty to intervene’: How some US cities are telling cops to police each other
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The officers were all arrested and the entire MPD is potentially getting dismantled, so Dallas might take the policy a bit more seriously.
What does getting dismantled mean? You close and reopen with the same people? Or you close and start from scratch with unexperienced ppl (assuming a large pool of applicants)?