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The United States is founded on illegal behavior (sedition and treason). If the founders of the country have taught us anything it should be that great things come from those willing to break the law in furtherance of mankind.

And Hollywood is founded on piracy (Edison's first presentation was a pirate copy of the lumiere's voyage to the moon) and IP crime (movie makers moved to Hollywood form NY because they were violating Edison's patents on the cameras)

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The United States is founded on illegal behavior (sedition and treason). If the founders of the country have taught us anything it should be that great things come from those willing to break the law in furtherance of mankind.

But not necessarily so. It's an inappropriate generalization, what illegal behavior is good, all of it?

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It's a brave new world when thinking/discussing certain topics is illegal.

Thoughtcrime is one of the cornerstones of the justice system, it's not new at all. For pretty much any charge if you've considered or planned that action you'll pickup an additional conspiracy charge whether or not you actually carried out the plan. Libel/Slander are pure expression liabilities. As well mens rea or 'guilty mind' is an essential part of most prosecutions.

Look at what the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI found in just one two man office: over 40% of the documents concerned monitoring of political groups.

It's not armed groups that are dangerous, it's ideas. This is why people REALLY don't like Wikileaks, it exposes the truth and provides it for the people to judge in its raw and unadulterated form. Wikileaks poses only a threat to those whose power derives from deceiving the people.

Re: StackExchange allows discussion of techniques for removing DRM.

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Well, good...for those still affected by DRM.

I've managed to avoid DRM in an even simpler way: I consume far less content than I used to. And I have only the DRM-using companies to thank for that. When I finally took stock of my free time and realized what a waste it was to sit on my ass for 2 hours to passively absorb even one stupid movie, I basically stopped. Sure I watch things now and then, but nowhere near as much as before. I can pretty much guarantee that had there been no ridiculous roadblocks making it painful to consume content, I'd still be buying more than I do now. I wouldn't have seen a reason to change. So, thank you media companies; your intense desire to not be in business has helped me free up some time.

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It's a brave new world when thinking/discussing certain topics is illegal.

Thoughtcrime is one of the cornerstones of the justice system, it's not new at all. For pretty much any charge if you've considered or planned that action you'll pickup an additional conspiracy charge whether or not you actually carried out the plan. Libel/Slander are pure expression liabilities. As well mens rea or 'guilty mind' is an essential part of most prosecutions. Look at what the Citizens Commission to Inves…

Libel and slander can both have hard evidence (and libel has it by definition because it requires that there be something written, such as a publication of lies and demonstration of damages; slander is verbal, but there can be recordings). They are not automatically thought crimes.

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It's a brave new world when thinking/discussing certain topics is illegal.

Thoughtcrime is one of the cornerstones of the justice system, it's not new at all. For pretty much any charge if you've considered or planned that action you'll pickup an additional conspiracy charge whether or not you actually carried out the plan. Libel/Slander are pure expression liabilities. As well mens rea or 'guilty mind' is an essential part of most prosecutions. Look at what the Citizens Commission to Inves…

Your example laws are all against thinking about doing something bad and then doing it. That's a bit different from criminalizing the thought in isolation.
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