Is a trillion dollars’ worth of programming lying on the ground?
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Is a trillion dollars’ worth of programming lying on the ground?
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#2> Being smart and being thought how to be a programmer seems to be the main prerequisite of being a good programmer.
I assume that's a typo for "taught" but maybe it's one of those Freudian slips. I'd say being at least medium-clever and being thought of as a programmer is the prerequisite for getting paid loads of money as a "good" programmer.
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#3TL&DR: re-invents the idea of off-shoring, sans discussion of attempts to do it in the past.
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#4This is an odd analysis, because as it highlights, salaries are strongly correlated with wealth of the country.
So the question really becomes, not why are salaries different, but "why is programming difficult to offshore".
If programming was easy to import and export then either salaries would even out or, more likely, would be relocated to cheaper countries like many kinds of manufacturing.
But software is difficult to outsource even from one department to another let alone between companies or countries.
If you can solve outsourcing, then you've solved the problem of knowing what you want from software.
But if you've done that, you've just become the software engineer.
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#6Title is misleading.
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#7“ Doctors in the US and UK are very expensive, that's not because nobody has noticed there are equally skilled doctors in other countries that charge 1/5th the price (or even algorithms that can do most of it for pennies). It's because practicing medicine in those countries requires to go through a regulatory gauntlet that would make Kafka feel like an unimaginative fraud.”
Ouch. Yeah some US/UK doctors are overpaid but the liability is not addressed. Also not sure what algorithms they are referring to. I don’t know any even in radiology/pathology that can rival a physician.
From my friends who work with outsourced programmers, this is also an issue in the coding world right? Who’s held responsible if something is not working or delivered?
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#8This is an odd analysis, because as it highlights, salaries are strongly correlated with wealth of the country. So the question really becomes, not why are salaries different, but "why is programming difficult to offshore". If programming was easy to import and export then either salaries would even out or, more likely, would be relocated to cheaper countries like many kinds of manufacturing. But software is difficul…
Turns out, the hard part of software is figuring out what to build.
The rest is cheap in comparison, whether done in SF or Bangalore.
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#9This is an odd analysis, because as it highlights, salaries are strongly correlated with wealth of the country. So the question really becomes, not why are salaries different, but "why is programming difficult to offshore". If programming was easy to import and export then either salaries would even out or, more likely, would be relocated to cheaper countries like many kinds of manufacturing. But software is difficul…
I found it quite difficult to outsource Engineering work to Engineers in another country.
It might be a cultural thing, but issues I've ran into- Slow/low prioritization, no movement unless you follow up often, lack of experience.
Don't get me wrong, I can be lazy too. But when things are outsourced it's really hard to keep positive relations and get stuff done on time with high quality.
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#10Title is misleading.
Yeah, I was expecting this to be about untapped market opportunities; i.e. software is eating the world, but not fast enough, and there is a lot of money to be made in applying software to various industries.