What is emergence?
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What is emergence?
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#3The classic paper "More is Different"[1] is another good essay that touches on this subject, and opens with some really interesting examples showing why it can be hard to apply low-level laws to anticipate the behaviour of complex systems, even when you can prove that the complex systems must obey those laws.
1 - http://robotics.cs.tamu.edu/dshell/cs689/papers/anderson72mo...
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#5I really appreciate the intuitive explanation that in Emergentism the whole can have the same ontological importance as the parts. Could it also be more important?
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#6Obligatory thesis that cracks this open:
"Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software"
An utterly phenomenal book:
https://www.amazon.com/Emergence-Connected-Brains-Cities-Sof...
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#7Sometimes I think there is other information that gives the physics its meaning.
For example, if you took a Shingled Magnetic Recording hard drive filled with VP9 encoded movie files on a NTFS partition, even if you perfectly understood the physics, and figured out all the individual magnetic fields, you would still have a rough time making sense of the of what was on it without this higher level information information.
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#8The issue is that emergence is just some arbitrarily picked meaning of something observed from a certain "distance" or from a certain perspective. Emergence is not an intrinsic property of anything, it is just a (subjective) point of view.
It is just another way of saying that things look different from different "zoom levels", hence we assign different models and/or meanings to them at each different level. But that's just our very human perspective, it is not some pre-existing/universal truth of a system.
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#9The issue is that emergence is just some arbitrarily picked meaning of something observed from a certain "distance" or from a certain perspective. Emergence is not an intrinsic property of anything, it is just a (subjective) point of view. It is just another way of saying that things look different from different "zoom levels", hence we assign different models and/or meanings to them at each different level. But that…
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#10If the author sees this, please post the journal club syllabus that this grew out of! Would be very interesting even without aligning references to your text. Thanks for the post.