Convos IRC client now supports video chat
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Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#2I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange.
But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay.
I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a second renaissance.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#3I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
P2P exploits will have a renaissance as well, unfortunately.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#4I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
When NAT no longer provides a de facto "firewall" routers will continue to drop incoming connections by default.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#5I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
I always wonder why P2P applications don't just use Tor hidden services to communicate:
- NAT hole-punching for free
- end-to-end encrypted for free
- peers identified by a hash of their public key, so no CA or similar required
- no metadata leakage
It seems like the perfect solution, but hardly anyone does it.
https://ricochet.im/ is a chat program that works this way, but the client is pretty minimal.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#6I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
I always wonder why P2P applications don't just use Tor hidden services to communicate: - NAT hole-punching for free - end-to-end encrypted for free - peers identified by a hash of their public key, so no CA or similar required - no metadata leakage It seems like the perfect solution, but hardly anyone does it. https://ricochet.im/ is a chat program that works this way, but the client is pretty minimal.
You forgot "slow as molasses".
That said, it made the tor-specific sites simple not just because JS was banned, but that's not video chat, isn't it?
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#7I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
When NAT no longer provides a de facto "firewall" routers will continue to drop incoming connections by default.
UDP hole punching could still work with a stateful firewall that follows the proposed "best practices for home routers for v6"
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#8I just wondered why STUN/TURN was needed in particular, if you can communicate details over IRC, having an external service for this when other p2p communication methods can be made using IRC seemed strange. But then I remembered DCC (and xDCC) are unusable these days because of NAT. So STUN wouldn't help, but you need the TURN relay. I really can't wait until IPv6 is everywhere; I believe it will allow p2p to have a…
I always wonder why P2P applications don't just use Tor hidden services to communicate: - NAT hole-punching for free - end-to-end encrypted for free - peers identified by a hash of their public key, so no CA or similar required - no metadata leakage It seems like the perfect solution, but hardly anyone does it. https://ricochet.im/ is a chat program that works this way, but the client is pretty minimal.
As the sibling comment mentioned, it's a very slow network and known Tor entry nodes are blocked in certain countries. The network could become faster if more people around the world ran relays, but it's becoming more difficult to even run a simple bridge due to hostile ISP and website activity.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#9Demo hacks the back button though.
Re: Convos IRC client now supports video chat
#10Kudos for maintaining a Perl app in 2020. I went into the github expecting some huge node.js jumble and was surprised to see a couple .pm files running everything.