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Re: Red Hat releases new OpenShift CLI developer tool

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Post by aquaticsunset »

verdverm wrote: post #2

How popular is OpenShift? Seems cool but have never heard of anyone actually using it.

I'm a huge fan, and it seems to be finding commercial success[1]. What it does well for me is preserve kubernetes concepts, but expose them in a way that's easier to manage from an admin standpoint. I learned kube through OpenShift - and was able to ramp up quickly enough to manage our internal application as an engineer.

[1] https://www.openshift.com/learn/success-stories/

Re: Red Hat releases new OpenShift CLI developer tool

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Post by cagenut »

verdverm wrote: post #2

How popular is OpenShift? Seems cool but have never heard of anyone actually using it.

its just kubernetes for redhat shops, so it will be roughly as popular as redhat enterprise and ibm services contracts. which is to say, probably billions in revenue, and yet no one on HN will touch it.

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Post by blinkingled »

verdverm wrote: post #2

How popular is OpenShift? Seems cool but have never heard of anyone actually using it.

I had to deal with it past 2 years - it is extremely bloated, not very well thought out and anything that needs decently performing storage is screwed over by GlusterFS and now I guess Ceph. All in all you really want to carefully analyze which apps you want to put on it and how much benefit you are really getting out of it - because it isn't free in any sense of the word - licensing, maintenance, operations - you are adding a crap ton of complexity and giving developers more ways to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Wow, looks like we have OpenShift fans here. Still, I prefer leaving the f out of OpenShift like everyone who has actually worked on it trying to get complex apps running smoothly :)]

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Post by pestaa »

blinkingled wrote: post #6

> Completely client based. No server is required within the OpenShift cluster for deployment. So I do need a OpenShift cluster then? Confusing.

I think it means that any existing OpenShift cluster is equipped with the necessary infrastructure and APIs exposed so that there is no Odo-specific server component required.

I agree the wording is unfortunate. Kinda like "serverless".

Re: Red Hat releases new OpenShift CLI developer tool

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Post by blinkingled »

pestaa wrote: post #7
blinkingled wrote: post #6

> Completely client based. No server is required within the OpenShift cluster for deployment. So I do need a OpenShift cluster then? Confusing.

I think it means that any existing OpenShift cluster is equipped with the necessary infrastructure and APIs exposed so that there is no Odo-specific server component required. I agree the wording is unfortunate. Kinda like "serverless".

Yeah, OpenShift cluster is the server for this tool - saying it is fully client based because it doesn't need additional server is - I don't know what :) (Besides the tool it is replacing - oc - doesn't need another server either.)

Re: Red Hat releases new OpenShift CLI developer tool

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Post by pestaa »

blinkingled wrote: post #5
verdverm wrote: post #2

How popular is OpenShift? Seems cool but have never heard of anyone actually using it.

I had to deal with it past 2 years - it is extremely bloated, not very well thought out and anything that needs decently performing storage is screwed over by GlusterFS and now I guess Ceph. All in all you really want to carefully analyze which apps you want to put on it and how much benefit you are really getting out of it - because it isn't free in any sense of the word - licensing, maintenance, operations - you ar…

I want to get into OpenShift/OKD, but the distributed storage systems are quite frightening. There are plenty nightmare stories related to GlusterFS performance.

However, strange as it sounds, I'm looking to deploy a cluster on a single node, primarily for the Kubernetes API & ecosystem (so many tooling options).

What is your opinion on running K8s this way, and having only local RAID storage?

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