I’ve Consed Every Pair
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I’ve Consed Every Pair
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#2Arc is underrated as an information management tool. There's something to be said for having a web framework that works out of the box. Rails is probably the only other framework that makes it as easy to "just make some forms that pass data around and run some code on that data." But not quite -- I haven't seen arc's closure-storing technique used in any other web framework.
The main issue that arc solves is that it gives you a full pipeline for managing "objects with properties" via the web. It's so flexible. I wrote a thread on how we're using it in production to manage our TPUs: https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1247570883306119170
Re: I’ve Consed Every Pair
#3Arc is underrated as an information management tool. There's something to be said for having a web framework that works out of the box. Rails is probably the only other framework that makes it as easy to "just make some forms that pass data around and run some code on that data." But not quite -- I haven't seen arc's closure-storing technique used in any other web framework. The main issue that arc solves is that it…
You haven't been around long enough, at least under the same name, to remember when there was an implicit time limit on the comment reply page, inflicted by those stored closures silently timing out. Having long comments so often eaten that way was actually the specific thing that annoyed me into first installing It's All Text.
It's an interesting approach, as attempts to force statefulness on a stateless-by-design protocol go, but I don't know that I like how it scales.
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#4I tried writing some of my own verses for this song, but I couldn't think of anything that rhymed with RPLACA and CDADAADR.
Speaking of consing every pair, here's a previous discussion about "The Origin of CAR and CDR in Lisp (2005) (iwriteiam.nl)":
Re: I’ve Consed Every Pair
#5I tried writing some of my own verses for this song, but I couldn't think of anything that rhymed with RPLACA and CDADAADR. Speaking of consing every pair, here's a previous discussion about "The Origin of CAR and CDR in Lisp (2005) (iwriteiam.nl)": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16008239 http://www.iwriteiam.nl/HaCAR_CDR.html
FWIW, Clojure doesn't cons every pair :)
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#6Arc is underrated as an information management tool. There's something to be said for having a web framework that works out of the box. Rails is probably the only other framework that makes it as easy to "just make some forms that pass data around and run some code on that data." But not quite -- I haven't seen arc's closure-storing technique used in any other web framework. The main issue that arc solves is that it…
You haven't been around long enough, at least under the same name, to remember when there was an implicit time limit on the comment reply page, inflicted by those stored closures silently timing out. Having long comments so often eaten that way was actually the specific thing that annoyed me into first installing It's All Text. It's an interesting approach, as attempts to force statefulness on a stateless-by-design p…
My account was reset. I've been around since day two. :)
You're right, it has some downfalls. But a lot of the time it simply doesn't matter. All the links at https://www.tensorfork.com/tpus are dynamic, and the speed you gain by being able to whip up a feature in 10 minutes is worth the pain of an occasional dead link.
On the other hand, I did some work for "deduplicating fnids": http://arclanguage.com/item?id=20996 which the site is using, so the links possibly last much longer than the early-HN links.
(Basically, we calculate the fnid key based on the lexical environment, rather than using a random ID each time the page is loaded. So each link gets a unique ID based on the code structure rather than a random ID. Meaning, instead of millions of random links to store, you end up with a few tens of thousands.)
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#7I tried writing some of my own verses for this song, but I couldn't think of anything that rhymed with RPLACA and CDADAADR. Speaking of consing every pair, here's a previous discussion about "The Origin of CAR and CDR in Lisp (2005) (iwriteiam.nl)": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16008239 http://www.iwriteiam.nl/HaCAR_CDR.html
FWIW, Clojure doesn't cons every pair :)
To its credit, Clojure is also a Sadistic Perversion Language that "Injects itself into the corporate scene, then subverts from within."
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22910702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZyvIHYn2zk
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vulk-blog/ThePervertsGuid...
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't been around long enough, at least under the same name, to remember when there was an implicit time limit on the comment reply page, inflicted by those stored closures silently timing out. Having long comments so often eaten that way was actually the specific thing that annoyed me into first installing It's All Text. It's an interesting approach, as attempts to force statefulness on a stateless-by-design p…
My account was reset. I've been around since day two. :) You're right, it has some downfalls. But a lot of the time it simply doesn't matter. All the links at https://www.tensorfork.com/tpus are dynamic, and the speed you gain by being able to whip up a feature in 10 minutes is worth the pain of an occasional dead link. On the other hand, I did some work for "deduplicating fnids": http://arclanguage.com/item?id=20996…
Are fnids anything like Fnords?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord
Or are they more like Vermicious Knids?
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#9Now, obviously, someone has to run this through Jukebox?
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#10I remember reading something someplace that was something like ... the problem with being old and full of wisdom is it's hard to share that wisdom with the people that need it most without sounding like an old condescending jerk. Plus, they won't listen anyways. The best you can hope for is that when they are old and full of wisdom they'll remember you and think "hey that old guy was right" . I know when I was 25 I was damn sure I knew better than anyone twice my age.