The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
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Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#2We are down 50% from the peak of Covid deaths in California. It seems likely we will have one or more days of zero Covid deaths before the end of May. That is the measure I assume they are going for at this point.
Source: https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/cali...
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#3I told my wife that I've come assumed shelter-in-place IS in place until a vaccine has been developed. Either that, or herd immunity is to a point where going outside isn't a game of Russian roulette.
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#4I'm lucky enough to have remote work. And I'm sure many HNers have a nice buffer of savings from their tech jobs to weather the storm or are getting paid time off.
But can anyone share what it's like to not be in either of these situations? How are your rent lords handling things?
I live abroad in a cheap country so I can handle zero income, but I wouldn't be able to last long if rent was $2000+/mo instead of the Yet when I read Redditors talk about quarantine, you'd think everyone in the world was getting paid time off to play Animal Crossing at home or they live at mom's house rent-free. And it seems like it's this crowd that's likely to be pushing for staying in lockdown with no end in sight.
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#5Blanket lockdown has to end.
This policy has outlived its usefulness, and is harming people's quality of life without a clear goal.
The initial premise of the "flatten the curve" memes was to avoid overwhelming hospitals. The shelter-in-place has not only had this effect, it's been too effective. Hospital utilization in the bay area is at around 10% when you count surge capacity that has been added [1].
Meanwhile, data is coming out to show that coronavirus has a very low fatality risk to anyone under the age of 50, and to anyone without pre-existing health conditions. A blanket shutdown does not make any sense when the vulnerable demographic has been clearly identified. How is it moral to order people to shelter in place when their risk of death is around 0.01% for 18-45 year olds.
Blanket lockdown doesn't make sense anymore. There is no risk posed to the majority of the population from covid-19. We need to switch to targeted approach, and let people get back to their lives.
Our political leaders (in California) are being fearful, afraid to take leadership and base their decisions on data.
[1] https://www.smchealth.org/post/san-mateo-county-covid-19-dat...
[2] https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#downl... and https://www.6sqft.com/new-york-covid-antibody-test-prelimina...
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#6I told my wife that I've come assumed shelter-in-place IS in place until a vaccine has been developed. Either that, or herd immunity is to a point where going outside isn't a game of Russian roulette.
Not a chance that will be the case.
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#7I told my wife that I've come assumed shelter-in-place IS in place until a vaccine has been developed. Either that, or herd immunity is to a point where going outside isn't a game of Russian roulette.
The Bay area is not setting up the area for herd immunity -- there are only a hundred cases a day, so it would take many decades to get herd immunity (effectively never, given births and gradual loss of immunity).
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#8Absurd. This is illogical. Expect this now to be challenged in court.
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#9Blanket lockdown has to end. This policy has outlived its usefulness, and is harming people's quality of life without a clear goal. The initial premise of the "flatten the curve" memes was to avoid overwhelming hospitals. The shelter-in-place has not only had this effect, it's been too effective. Hospital utilization in the bay area is at around 10% when you count surge capacity that has been added [1]. Meanwhile, da…
Hopefully this will be the impetus we need to finally start living underground like mole people.
Re: The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is being extended through May
#10Blanket lockdown has to end. This policy has outlived its usefulness, and is harming people's quality of life without a clear goal. The initial premise of the "flatten the curve" memes was to avoid overwhelming hospitals. The shelter-in-place has not only had this effect, it's been too effective. Hospital utilization in the bay area is at around 10% when you count surge capacity that has been added [1]. Meanwhile, da…
Agreed, these are simply political moves