New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
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Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#2Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22782302
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#3Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22782302
Ah, sorry, didn't see it'd been submitted before
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#4As the previous discussion already noted it seems disingenuous.
Spacex has real security concerns with national security secrets and trade assets.
Schools primary goal should be accessibility when it comes to teaching and Zoom arguably with its better video/audio has the best even with glaring security flaws (that do not necessarily seem decidedly worse than Hangouts).
Banning Zoom seems to be getting on the negative news train and applying the old adage, "everything looks like a nail."
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#5As the previous discussion already noted it seems disingenuous. Spacex has real security concerns with national security secrets and trade assets. Schools primary goal should be accessibility when it comes to teaching and Zoom arguably with its better video/audio has the best even with glaring security flaws (that do not necessarily seem decidedly worse than Hangouts). Banning Zoom seems to be getting on the negative…
How on earth is it acceptable to force students (who have pretty much no position to argue) to install what is effectively malware?
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#6As the previous discussion already noted it seems disingenuous. Spacex has real security concerns with national security secrets and trade assets. Schools primary goal should be accessibility when it comes to teaching and Zoom arguably with its better video/audio has the best even with glaring security flaws (that do not necessarily seem decidedly worse than Hangouts). Banning Zoom seems to be getting on the negative…
We're talking about videos of children in their homes, in many cases probably their bedrooms. If they have to use it for school, they may also use it with their friends other than for school work as they will have it set up and know how to use it. I think the risks of illicit access to that material are pretty clear, and there are several serious vulnerabilities in Zoom that can grant direct access to video chats and saved videos, plus numerous other vulnerabilities.
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#7As the previous discussion already noted it seems disingenuous. Spacex has real security concerns with national security secrets and trade assets. Schools primary goal should be accessibility when it comes to teaching and Zoom arguably with its better video/audio has the best even with glaring security flaws (that do not necessarily seem decidedly worse than Hangouts). Banning Zoom seems to be getting on the negative…
We're talking about videos of children in their homes, in many cases probably their bedrooms. If they have to use it for school, they may also use it with their friends other than for school work as they will have it set up and know how to use it. I think the risks of illicit access to that material are pretty clear, and there are several serious vulnerabilities in Zoom that can grant direct access to video chats and…
So why target Zoom specifically?
You're asking a broader question of children's safety. 100% it's a valid concern, but video tele-learning should be under fire then.
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#8As the previous discussion already noted it seems disingenuous. Spacex has real security concerns with national security secrets and trade assets. Schools primary goal should be accessibility when it comes to teaching and Zoom arguably with its better video/audio has the best even with glaring security flaws (that do not necessarily seem decidedly worse than Hangouts). Banning Zoom seems to be getting on the negative…
The reason SpaceX banned it is because of legal reasons: they can't export their tech. When children are involved, there are very similar legal concerns: they can't export the data associated with the children, aka: the video feed. I think both bans of Zoom are reasonable.
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#9"I bet Microsoft is behind this" I thought, and sure enough - found the obligatory Teams push in there.
Re: New York City bans Zoom in schools, citing security concerns
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're talking about videos of children in their homes, in many cases probably their bedrooms. If they have to use it for school, they may also use it with their friends other than for school work as they will have it set up and know how to use it. I think the risks of illicit access to that material are pretty clear, and there are several serious vulnerabilities in Zoom that can grant direct access to video chats and…
So why target Zoom specifically? You're asking a broader question of children's safety. 100% it's a valid concern, but video tele-learning should be under fire then.
Because Zoom in particular not only has numerous demonstrated security vulnerabilities, many of which are apparently intentional features, but has also shown a recklessly cavalier attitude to security generally. Surely it makes more sense to use and promote solutions from companies with better track records on security and privacy, which at this point seems to be pretty much anybody else.