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Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

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Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

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Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done!

All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now.

For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization.

Put on some big-boy pants, and lets get this done.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#3

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

This is not only delusional but dangerous. The fiction that this only impacts people over 55 is going to kill people.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#4

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

> “My biggest concern, flat out, is the sickness is spread by people traveling point to point. It can be reduced by people sheltering in place. We are doing the opposite of that. We are taking people to a location that is vulnerable and ill equipped to handle travelers at this time,” one employee says.

> Van Horn only has a small clinic and hospital, and Hinojos says most patients are sent to El Paso or Odessa if they need serious care.

It's not about the <55 year old employees getting sick. It's about putting an entire rural town at risk of infection from a state with severe infection rates - a town that has no infrastructure to accommodate for critical cases of this virus.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#5

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

This is not only delusional but dangerous. The fiction that this only impacts people over 55 is going to kill people.

It is delusional that stretching out achieving herd immunity to a year will not be destructive.

Because, that’s what you’re betting on.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

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post #4

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

> “My biggest concern, flat out, is the sickness is spread by people traveling point to point. It can be reduced by people sheltering in place. We are doing the opposite of that. We are taking people to a location that is vulnerable and ill equipped to handle travelers at this time,” one employee says. > Van Horn only has a small clinic and hospital, and Hinojos says most patients are sent to El Paso or Odessa if the…

There is no end-game in the present approach that results in most at-risk people not getting Covid-19. That’s the problem.

At best, they’ll get it but just at a rate where they die at an acceptable rate.

By “taking one for the team”, instead, we young, healthy majority can achieve herd immunity quickly — actually helping ensure the elderly are protected.

Cowardice and ignorance is actually preventing us all from protecting our loved ones.

Do the math — healthy/young people don’t generally die or require advanced care. If .1% of 100m (us volunteers) do it in 3 weeks, that is an investment of 100,000 of us — to protect 200m at-risk from future infection and death at 1-10% mortality rates.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#7

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

How about the people that you buy food and gasoline from out in west texas? Just collateral damage?

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#8

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

Nobody knows what long term effects of COVID-19 are. Those who recover still end up with reduced lung capacity. Plus this virus also attacks heart and liver, possibly leaving permanent damage to these organs.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#9

Enough, already! Get volunteers, and get it done! All “at risk” and any scared people should be self-isolating, and the rest of us should be voluntarily holding raves and getting this civilization to “herd immunity” level by 2-3 weeks from now. For healthy The alternative — a year of social distancing and partial quarantine — stands a good chance of seriously damaging or destroying our civilization. Put on some big-b…

Nobody knows what long term effects of COVID-19 are. Those who recover still end up with reduced lung capacity. Plus this virus also attacks heart and liver, possibly leaving permanent damage to these organs.

And intestines.

Video the other day from a doctor said they were wearing PPE full time now because they were seeing patients with no complaints except GI issues and they saw lung fluid in the X-rays and tested them.

Re: Blue Origin pressures employees to travel to rural TX to test launch New Shepard

#10
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “My biggest concern, flat out, is the sickness is spread by people traveling point to point. It can be reduced by people sheltering in place. We are doing the opposite of that. We are taking people to a location that is vulnerable and ill equipped to handle travelers at this time,” one employee says. > Van Horn only has a small clinic and hospital, and Hinojos says most patients are sent to El Paso or Odessa if the…

There is no end-game in the present approach that results in most at-risk people not getting Covid-19. That’s the problem. At best, they’ll get it but just at a rate where they die at an acceptable rate. By “taking one for the team”, instead, we young, healthy majority can achieve herd immunity quickly — actually helping ensure the elderly are protected. Cowardice and ignorance is actually preventing us all from prot…

> At best, they’ll get it but just at a rate where they die at an acceptable rate.

They’ll save lives by ensuring medical staff can attend to people who would otherwise die of problems that are wholly treatable with modern medicine.

> herd immunity

Let’s do the math. Based on what I have read, it would take infecting 70 percent of the population to reach herd immunity with this virus based on the R0 value of roughly 3. If we let that happen, 0.35-0.7 percent of the population will die. In the U.S., that’s 11,445,000 people in the best case. 10 percent of all infections need to be hospitalized. That’s 32.7 million people requiring medical care at an unpredictable rate. It sounds like you’re suggesting 3 weeks, so let’s roll with that. Here’s the problem: young or old, we can’t handle that. The number of hospital beds is nowhere near close. How do you feel about those numbers?

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