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FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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Recent interview with Ajit Pai covers some of his thoughts on net neutrality. I thought it was was worth a listen/read

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/ajit-pai/

As for the article, I don't think it matters all that much except maybe possible slight embarassment?

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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Recent interview with Ajit Pai covers some of his thoughts on net neutrality. I thought it was was worth a listen/read http://freakonomics.com/podcast/ajit-pai/ As for the article, I don't think it matters all that much except maybe possible slight embarassment?

I'm not sure I would agree that the article doesn't matter that much. It's an argument that while the FCC's going along with what the courts decided, they're not necessarily doing so in good faith because they tried to bury the announcement with fluff and didn't use a title that would be understandable to the average user.

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc.

Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc. Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

T-mobile has been throttling and creating paid fast lanes pretty heavily and I now pay as much in data overage fees to comcast per month as half my total bill.

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc. Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

.org is getting sold, all data plans have transfer caps, google is not even showing urls to mobile users anymore, yes things are going to hell.

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc. Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

yep. like this article. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/comcast-quietly-... (from 2017). I was really against repealing because of that. I would imagine these sort of things are done in secret & with NDA's though.

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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post #6

It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc. Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

T-mobile has been throttling and creating paid fast lanes pretty heavily and I now pay as much in data overage fees to comcast per month as half my total bill.

How much data are you using monthly? My comcast "cap" is 3TB monthly... which is a HUGE amount of data for a residential user. I've never even broken 1TB...

If you're hosting something, might be worth upgrading to a business connection, which doesn't have data caps and comes with static ip's and a SLA.

As an aside - I'm personally OK with data caps so long as they don't impact most users (80/20, 90/10 or something like that).

ISP's pay for ingress traffic, so by setting a data cap that impacts only the egregious data hogs, it means they can charge normal users a smaller rate, rather than subsidize a few users by charging everyone more.

Re: FCC forced by court to ask the public again for feedback on net neutrality

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It’s been over two years since Net Neutrality was repealed. I remember at the time there was a lot of talk about how the internet was going to be ruined by throttling, paid “fast lanes”, etc. Have any of these things happened? Or did that turn out to mostly be fear-mongering?

.org is getting sold, all data plans have transfer caps, google is not even showing urls to mobile users anymore, yes things are going to hell.

I'm all for net neutrality, but 2 of the 3 things you listed were never going to be "protected" by net neutrality laws.

Which highlights the problem with what Net Neutrality morphed into - it became something that meant everything and anything - not just "dumb pipes" like it originated as.

Ask 3 different people what Net Neutrality means and you'll get 3 different answers. How do you legislate that and make everyone happy?

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