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I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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Re: I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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"Upwork also doesn’t give a shit about how can we charge VAT for our EU clients — which is a legal requirement for EU based freelancers like me"

If there is ONE THING governments hate it is companies not paying taxes. But this is a problem for EU clients as well. They need complete invoices too.

Re: I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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I've personally had different experiences on upwork (though I could've just been lucky) - I was doing backend development jobs for various clients on the platform, and got 4 decently paid jobs within 2-3 weeks of signing up or so after which I sought a different opportunity and left. Admittedly, my first job on it was from a friend who needed some help, so that undoubtedly helped!

Re: I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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To be transparent, I have used Upwork in the past and would use it again as a client.

What he's saying is pretty spot on. ANY market place that's wide spread/large enough is an efficiency system that goes to fair market value.

Is there a fix that I could provide? No, because what he's complaining about, someone in India is praising. The Indian designer can get discovered. Pumps out good, solid work at 94% success and makes way more money than he ever could staying local to his/her area.

It is outsourcing and the article writer might have more skills, completely possible, but in a market place that turns skills into commodities you need to stand out. Relates to the clients better w/ background, stronger portfolio, bigger named contracts. There are expensive designers on Upwork for sure, and they deserve it, but they didn't get there out of the gate.

If I had a friend who was a designer in a first world country that asked about Upwork, I'd say avoid it. Make friends with local companies, upsell into bigger ones, and shun Upwork.

Your advantage has to be, you can sidestep it.

Re: I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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Just a general question about upwork: do most people find a job by looking at the jobs posted, then submitting a proposal? Or do they optimize their profile and hope a client sends them a request?

Mostly the former. However, when you become "Top Rated" you will get many inbound requests from clients without much effort

Re: I think Upwork is a huge waste of time

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> Upwork is optimized for Clients and not for Freelancers

Duh? Clients are those who pour money into the platform, hence the optimization.

I mean, wouldn't you try your best to make your paying customers as happy as possible/legal ?

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