Boeing fired midlevel executive following embarrassing emails
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#3http://archive.is/hk4Cd
thank you - you are my favorite kind of person!
(use https though)
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#4> Boeing leaders have faced questions from federal lawmakers about who has been held accountable for the MAX crisis.
so, apparently the leakers?
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#5Note that this person did not write or receive any of these messages; he was a manager of those who did.
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#6From the article:
Mr. Cooper didn’t send or receive the messages, the latest batch of which Boeing disclosed to lawmakers and the news media in January, this person said. Those messages show Boeing employees mocking airline officials, aviation regulators and even their own colleagues. In one, an employee said the 737 MAX had been “designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys.”
Boeing Chief Executive David Calhoun, who has called the messages “totally appalling,” has said he aimed to stamp out such behavior and hold managers accountable. “Awareness in the leadership ranks around whether that’s happening or not is not an excuse if it’s happening,” Mr. Calhoun said in a call with reporters in January, shortly after taking over as CEO. “Disciplinary actions have to be taken.”
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To summarize:
They fired a guy for not knowing about emails he did not send or receive where engineers were voicing their internal concerns that the 737 MAX design was lacking.
Boeing's take away wasn't, "People knew something was wrong and didn't have a way to properly voice that concern."
Boeing's take away was, "Middle management should have sufficiently threatened those under their supervision into self-censoring their concerns."
Seems like a super-healthy corporate culture that would simultaneously be a fun place to work and produce the best products /s
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#7http://archive.is/hk4Cd
I don't know why people comment with archive links for WSJ articles that were in the print edition
https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/202002128400/boei...
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#8He was a VP. I’m not aware VP is a mid level management job. I always thought director level and below would be the case.
Re: Boeing fired midlevel executive following embarrassing emails
#9From the article: Mr. Cooper didn’t send or receive the messages, the latest batch of which Boeing disclosed to lawmakers and the news media in January, this person said. Those messages show Boeing employees mocking airline officials, aviation regulators and even their own colleagues. In one, an employee said the 737 MAX had been “designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys.” Boeing Chief Executive Davi…
This kind of an article sounds incredibly damning to me. It indicates that Boeing is essentially rotten on the inside and that anybody doing business with them should be wary.
Re: Boeing fired midlevel executive following embarrassing emails
#10From the article: Mr. Cooper didn’t send or receive the messages, the latest batch of which Boeing disclosed to lawmakers and the news media in January, this person said. Those messages show Boeing employees mocking airline officials, aviation regulators and even their own colleagues. In one, an employee said the 737 MAX had been “designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys.” Boeing Chief Executive Davi…
Yeah. As the company, you don't want emails like that coming out, but getting rid of messages like that damages the so called safety culture.
I think a good answer as a CEO would be to tell managers to be more careful in emails, but no real punishment. However, the criticism in the emails was pretty low content, it's not like this was a message that said, man those monkeys really screwed up the MCAS or something. I think you might see messages like that even on well designed products, people get frustrated.