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Re: Show HN: A self-hosted email engine

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> Cut the costs of a growing audience > It integrates with services like Amazon SES, Mailgun or Sendgrid to send out mailings How is this going to "cut the costs" when you still have to pay the costs of SES/Mailgun/Sendgrid?

Those services are a lot cheaper per email than fully integrated marketing platforms, such as MailChimp, when you have a lot of subscribers.

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted email engine

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Awesome. We can never have enough of high quality self hosted software.

As someone who has been out of the PHP game for a long time, is it still a viable choice for new software? I don't have fond memories of the language at that time, so seeing PHP in the demo video poster frame was an immediate mark against pitching this at my company. That made me wonder whether it's a reasonable reaction to have.

Edit for the downvoters— this is an honest question and I very much agree that we can never have too much high-quality self-hosted software. If that can be done with PHP I'm open-minded.

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted email engine

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This is not my area but why dont people setup their own smtp servers, and use plain tools like readcube?

Hosting your own email service is way more difficult than just spinning up a smtp server and some interface. Most big providers (like gmail) are more likely to flag incoming mails from unknown servers.

That's the reason why stuff like Sendy[1] is so popular. You host your own interface, settings and so on, but the ugly part of sending your email is handled by AWS SES.

[1] https://sendy.co/

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted email engine

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Awesome. We can never have enough of high quality self hosted software.

As someone who has been out of the PHP game for a long time, is it still a viable choice for new software? I don't have fond memories of the language at that time, so seeing PHP in the demo video poster frame was an immediate mark against pitching this at my company. That made me wonder whether it's a reasonable reaction to have. Edit for the downvoters— this is an honest question and I very much agree that we can ne…

PHP is getting a lot better these days. There is still a lot of clunky legacy syntax but the performance and features are pretty much on par with other scripting languages now.

Re: Show HN: A self-hosted email engine

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Awesome. We can never have enough of high quality self hosted software.

As someone who has been out of the PHP game for a long time, is it still a viable choice for new software? I don't have fond memories of the language at that time, so seeing PHP in the demo video poster frame was an immediate mark against pitching this at my company. That made me wonder whether it's a reasonable reaction to have. Edit for the downvoters— this is an honest question and I very much agree that we can ne…

The latest versions of PHP aren't too bad.

That said Node.js has IMO an interesting architecture because it's event driven, combine that with Typescript and it's solid.

Python type support, and event driven frameworks (e.g. async/await) were only (fairly) recently made accessible, there's a few frameworks that can utilize it well like FastAPI, but many of the popular ones like Django are still behind on async/await support for the a lot of features like the ORM and still is lacking typing support. IMO the python web development system is going to be really awesome once Django gets robust types and async support.

Disclaimer: Current job uses python/Django and js. I have little experience with other languages/frameworks.

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