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Blogging about Midori (2015)

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Re: Blogging about Midori (2015)

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> My biggest regret is that we didn’t OSS it from the start, where the meritocracy of the Internet could judge its pieces appropriately.

This would have been interesting, but it's not too late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't anything stopping Microsoft from releasing this research to the public today. It seems like something the "new" Microsoft of 2020 would be likely to do.

Re: Blogging about Midori (2015)

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See also "Safe Systems Software and the Future of Computing" by Joe Duffy, the closing keynote at RustConf 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuD7SCqHB7k

Midori and Rust have several striking similarities, and Microsoft's recent uptick in interest in Rust (and Rust-like languages) bodes well for improved software quality.

Re: Blogging about Midori (2015)

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Everyone I have worked with from the Midori team has been very impressive. Regardless of the direct success of the project, I believe it (to some extent) improved the quality of Microsoft's engineering culture.

Re: Blogging about Midori (2015)

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wild guess: it's a Greenfield OS project

I had never heard of this, but thank you.

That's fair:) A greenfield project is a project done from scratch or as a fresh start. This ranges from "new startup so we're starting from scratch" to " we've decided that the right thing to do in this huge Enterprise environment is to throw out everything we have and make a completely new pass at everything".

Re: Blogging about Midori (2015)

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post #3

> My biggest regret is that we didn’t OSS it from the start, where the meritocracy of the Internet could judge its pieces appropriately. This would have been interesting, but it's not too late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't anything stopping Microsoft from releasing this research to the public today. It seems like something the "new" Microsoft of 2020 would be likely to do.

There was a copy of the code for Singularity, the predecessor to Midori, on CodePlex. Not sure if it ever got moved to Github.

It has to be said, though. It's more like "source available", not open source. I can't remember what the license is specifically, but it's not a proper open source license.

You could see it, build it, and play with it, but you couldn't do anything else with it. No sharing changes, no derivatives, etc.

Singularity would be a neat place to start working on a managed code OS, though.

I would prefer that they properly open source Midori.

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