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Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

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Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

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FYI: https://www.eff.org/cases/oracle-v-google

the lawsuit will now be known as Google v. Oracle, since Google asked the Supreme Court to hear the case. After nine years, we’ll have to get used to calling the case by this new name

Interesting.

Poetic.

Google can’t win this fight (if they win) as a defendant, only as an aggressor.

Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

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Docket: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/do...

Direct link to brief: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-956/127663/20200...

Schedule:

Petitioner’s (Google) brief: January 6, 2020

Respondent’s (Oracle) brief: February 12, 2020

Reply (Google) brief: March 13, 2020

Oral Argument: Likely late March, possibly in April, otherwise delayed to October.

Ruling: If Oral argument is heard late march or in April, sometime this summer.

Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

#5
This coming from the company that files patents like crazy and gives out t-shirts that say “patent heroes wanted”. Call me cynical but I feel like google is narrowly interested in open innovation when they are at risk for billions in fines, and definitely also supports openness in other ways, but still supports a lot of proprietary and closed source work. There are lots of business reasons to be closed source, but don’t talk up a big talk about the value of openness when you’re really just trying to cover your ass. Lots of google tech fails on openness.

Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

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This coming from the company that files patents like crazy and gives out t-shirts that say “patent heroes wanted”. Call me cynical but I feel like google is narrowly interested in open innovation when they are at risk for billions in fines, and definitely also supports openness in other ways, but still supports a lot of proprietary and closed source work. There are lots of business reasons to be closed source, but do…

I don't think you're being unreasonably cynical. We have numerous demonstrations of companies pretending to be virtuous when it benefits them, while also being evil when it benefits them. It's fortunate that their posturing lines up with values that some of us hold, but I consider it nothing more than a profitable coincidence.

Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

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... and this is why we're opening our web index so anyone can build applications on top of it?

Google built one of the most valuable companies in the world on intellectual property. They want open innovation when it's a competitor being open, or when being open has strategic benefits. They don't give a damn otherwise.

Re: Google files opening Supreme Court brief in Oracle v. Google copyright lawsuit

#10

Google could lead by example here - perhaps by letting people download a reliable, usable copy of the data they're making 70 billion dollars a year from. But they won't even do that. https://beepb00p.xyz/takeout-data-gone.html

That blogpost is complaining that Google isn't keeping around as much data as OP would like. I mean, seriously? Damned if you do, damned if you don't?
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