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Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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Re: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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Obviously this depends highly on your definition of "copy". They presumably do not scrape Google's answers, but using user behavior patterns targeting search sites (or tracking all user data but analyzing the search segment) and what people clicked is just as bad.

How do you know that they target search sites? This could also be a more generic approach: If there's a link from page A to page B also return page B if someone searches for page A's keywords and there are only few results.

Re: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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post #6

Obviously this depends highly on your definition of "copy". They presumably do not scrape Google's answers, but using user behavior patterns targeting search sites (or tracking all user data but analyzing the search segment) and what people clicked is just as bad.

How do you know that they target search sites? This could also be a more generic approach: If there's a link from page A to page B also return page B if someone searches for page A's keywords and there are only few results.

Have you read the original claim? Google did a test with completely nonsense words and 100% unrelated search results with those terms. The results showed up on Bing. Whatever Bing is doing, it is using Google's search data.

http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-...

Re: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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"We do not copy Google's results."

Which does NOT answer the claims really. No one is saying they COPY them verbatim. They're saying that they SOMETIMES 'look at' the Google results as a ranking signal. And in SOME cases (it seems when it's a fairly obscure search phrase), Bing displays the same result as Google does - as the sting operation shown.

This naturally doesn't mean that Bing copy Google 100%, of course. But that's not what today's news is about.

A very weak 'reply' from Microsoft which again seems to pretty much confirm that they ARE 'looking at' certain Google results.

Re: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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I guess that's best possible defense for them at the moment. "We do not copy Google's results (however, we do use them in 'creative' ways!)"

> "We do not copy Google's results (however, we do use them in 'creative' ways!)"

What's the difference to what Google does by e.g. using newspaper articles in a "creative" way (by not only showing them in the search results, but by combining them to a new type of newspaper at news.google.com)?

Re: Microsoft: 'We do not copy Google's results'

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know that they target search sites? This could also be a more generic approach: If there's a link from page A to page B also return page B if someone searches for page A's keywords and there are only few results.

Have you read the original claim? Google did a test with completely nonsense words and 100% unrelated search results with those terms. The results showed up on Bing. Whatever Bing is doing, it is using Google's search data. http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-...

I didn't deny that they are using Google's data. But it could be possible that they have some kind of generic approach not specifically targeting Google (or even search engines).
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