Jony Ive Has Left Apple

So happy he can apply his talent elsewhere. Given the minuscule improvements we should expect in phones and laptops in the near future, Apple probably isn’t the best place for him.

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by celticninja » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 9:28 AM UTC

kitotik wrote: post #2

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

It's going to be outsourced to Ive's company anyway.

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by nickthemagicman » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 9:32 AM UTC

kitotik wrote: post #2

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

Having dated a graphic designer who ran her own firm...biz people don't seem to respect design. It's an slight hassle afterthought to many biz people. It's a cost center that they don't really understand...but don't realize they don't understand... because they think it's easy.

Steve Jobs was actually different. He put design first and foremost and did great things.

Hopefully the COO recognizes he's out of his element and doesn't try to half-ass design going forward.

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by Fnoord » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 11:15 AM UTC

Not really news, is it? Ive leaving and starting consulting (possibly including for Apple) was known for a while.

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by fredgrott » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 11:25 AM UTC

celticninja wrote: post #5

kitotik wrote: post #2

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

It's going to be outsourced to Ive's company anyway.

Apple tired that before, remember who designed the original iMac?

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by jariel » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 11:54 AM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #6

kitotik wrote: post #2

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

Having dated a graphic designer who ran her own firm...biz people don't seem to respect design. It's an slight hassle afterthought to many biz people. It's a cost center that they don't really understand...but don't realize they don't understand... because they think it's easy. Steve Jobs was actually different. He put design first and foremost and did great things. Hopefully the COO recognizes he's out of his elemen…

This is a great point.

'Design' is part of making the product, just like anything part of Engineering.

Also - it needs to be integrated into the rest of product, so I seriously doubt it can be outsourced effectively.

iPhones are packed tighter than sardines inside, every little aspect of physicality matters, and there is always tradeoffs. You can't 'horse trade' without a voice at the table.

I worked at a major handset manufacturer that never 'got it' and now they don't exist :)

Re: Jony Ive Has Left Apple

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Post by friendlybus » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 12:11 PM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #6

kitotik wrote: post #2

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

Having dated a graphic designer who ran her own firm...biz people don't seem to respect design. It's an slight hassle afterthought to many biz people. It's a cost center that they don't really understand...but don't realize they don't understand... because they think it's easy. Steve Jobs was actually different. He put design first and foremost and did great things. Hopefully the COO recognizes he's out of his elemen…

It could be like the Pininfirina to Ferrari/Fiat/Peugeot setup.