Trends in the San Francisco (mostly dog?) poop crisis
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#2This article is poopy!
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#3Do colder climates have this issue at all?
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#4dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
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#5I feel like if you can even ask that question then the answer is probably yes. This would make for a rare exception to Betteridge's law though.
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#6dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
Is that worse than them shooting up in the middle of the street?
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#7dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
Give them a better place to do drugs; a place where they get free needles and can throw away the old ones properly (so they won't leave them lying about).
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#8dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
Is that worse than them shooting up in the middle of the street?
that can be discovered and rescued, but not if they just shoot in a cubicle that no one even knows they are there I guess. That's the only(?) explanation on why SF closed up all public restrooms on Market street
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#9Something about this article pinwheeled Firefox on my mac for two minutes before I gave up and force killed firefox. Particularly strange since I have all javascript, including first party, blocked by default with uMatrix. I had to read it with emacs.
Anyway, the fact that this is even a question people wonder about should be proof enough there's a problem. I lived in Philadelphia for many years and it's generally a filthy city. People who live there know it too. All kinds of liter all over the place, rats running around in plain sight. Trash cans getting deliberately turned over and emptied onto the sidewalk isn't uncommon. Vomit and the piss of drunks are common in alleyways. There is no shortage of abject poverty and homelessness. But shit on the streets? Not in Philly; not in this century anyway. This is one respect in which Philly is definitely cleaner.
This discrepancy is something that I've never seen satisfactorily explained. I've heard all kinds of comments about poverty and access to public bathrooms and all those other explanations. But I've never been able to figure out why this impacts San Francisco so much more than a city like Philly. Poverty, homelessness, mental illness, income inequality, and businesses with no public restrooms are not uniquely SF problems.
Edit for clarification:
North and West Philly are filthy. North of Spring Garden or west of 40th or so. And Kensington is a festering wound. The alleys in downtown are filthy too, though the sidewalks of the major streets are generally cleaner. Maybe they've cleaned it up since I lived there; I moved away about 10 years ago. I last visited about 2 years ago and it didn't really seem like anything had changed.
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#10I wonder how much this has to do with an increase in people knowing that there exists a system to complain about poop, versus the actual increase of poop itself.