Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
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Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#2 Update: It's not everywhere. A foreign journalist at the Semiramis
Intercontinental hotel says he has internet access.Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#3This is the infowar at close range. Contrary to the gut reaction of most commenting on the unfolding of events in Egypt, the reason for the regime to shut down communications has little to do with stopping information to reach the outside world. It is information getting into the country that is of real danger to them, such as the AP video of a man getting shot today. They are shutting down the Internet (As confirmed by CNN. According to random people on Twitter...) because a video like that can be like pouring gasoline on a fire.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#4This is the infowar at close range. Contrary to the gut reaction of most commenting on the unfolding of events in Egypt, the reason for the regime to shut down communications has little to do with stopping information to reach the outside world. It is information getting into the country that is of real danger to them, such as the AP video of a man getting shot today. They are shutting down the Internet (As confirmed…
> because a video like that can be like pouring gasoline on a fire.
The question is who gave them the right to starve the fire? The internet is merely communication. If you can't deal with your populace communicating, even in a troubled time then you're already at your death-knell.
The danger here is that if the government steps in to tell me I'm not allowed to show someone a video of an abuse of power, then I'm going to be 10-times as pissed and 10-times as loud in the streets.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#5This is the infowar at close range. Contrary to the gut reaction of most commenting on the unfolding of events in Egypt, the reason for the regime to shut down communications has little to do with stopping information to reach the outside world. It is information getting into the country that is of real danger to them, such as the AP video of a man getting shot today. They are shutting down the Internet (As confirmed…
Except now they pissed off all 20 million (the guardian has a nice chart at the end of their article that states this) internet users. We will have to see but I think tomorrow's planed move will just have gotten bigger because of this move.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#6This is the infowar at close range. Contrary to the gut reaction of most commenting on the unfolding of events in Egypt, the reason for the regime to shut down communications has little to do with stopping information to reach the outside world. It is information getting into the country that is of real danger to them, such as the AP video of a man getting shot today. They are shutting down the Internet (As confirmed…
> because a video like that can be like pouring gasoline on a fire. The question is who gave them the right to starve the fire? The internet is merely communication. If you can't deal with your populace communicating, even in a troubled time then you're already at your death-knell. The danger here is that if the government steps in to tell me I'm not allowed to show someone a video of an abuse of power, then I'm goin…
That's how dictatorship work and why they often fail. You just can't keep this stuff working for ever. Egypt's dictatorship gov has managed to last this long which is impressive.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#7Update: It's not everywhere. A foreign journalist at the Semiramis Intercontinental hotel says he has internet access.
It doesn't need to be everywhere, because protests happens like waves. So they cut the Internet (and probably SMS) for a particular region, so that information can't spread to other locations of Egypt.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#8I'm always a little skeptical of these reports (having spent time in China and having had the internet not go down when everyone claimed there was going to be TianAnMen 2 or something) so I tried to do a little digging and the following egyptian websites are completely blacked from outside of Egypt out as of 4PM PST:
http://www.toyotaegypt.com.eg/
I was just googling "egypt eg" and so some of these are government sites but others are commercial sites.
With respect to access in a hotel - in a lot of these countries that have any sort of censorship, hotel's will have a separate line out of the country via fiber or maybe even satellite. That could be what is going on here too.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#9In Tunisia, it's not Internet that made the revolution success, but SMS. First, everyone has a mobile phone (even the poor). Second, you receive the message and read it instantly wherever you are. (You should guess it, few people here have smart phones). Third, there is more commitment that you go to the street.
For those interested in the Tunisian revolution: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12302232
I think that's quite an achievement. Because the Ministry of Interior is the hand of terror of the ancient regime and there should be no other armed forces.
The turning point didn't happen in 14 January when Ben Ali escaped, but is beginning today, when the government is losing its' power.
I'm, now, waiting for the election and I'm going to support my nominee may be by designing his website, through Facebook and some other influence.
If change has really come, and a new president was elected, I'm going to write a detailed report about the revolution. You can trust this one, because it has the truth. It's from someone that lived in this revolution, that knows the ins and outs of the country.
Most of the articles and reports that you'll find here and there are full of bullshit.
Re: Egypt has shut off the Internet (update: not everywhere)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> because a video like that can be like pouring gasoline on a fire. The question is who gave them the right to starve the fire? The internet is merely communication. If you can't deal with your populace communicating, even in a troubled time then you're already at your death-knell. The danger here is that if the government steps in to tell me I'm not allowed to show someone a video of an abuse of power, then I'm goin…
That's how dictatorship work and why they often fail. You just can't keep this stuff working for ever. Egypt's dictatorship gov has managed to last this long which is impressive.
It's amazing what US funding can do for a government, isn't it?